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Old Feb 9, 2020 | 06:07 PM
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I purchased a Ctek MXS 5.0 battery tender to keep my battery topped up while the car is in winter storage. Upon reading the instruction booklet and watching a few videos online from Ctek, the instructions state that if the battery is removed from the vehicle then simply connect the positive and negative cables to the corresponding battery terminal. However, if the battery is still connected in the vehicle, place the positive cable to the positive battery terminal, but connect the negative cable to a suitable ground point on the vehicle? Why do they recommend not connecting to the negative terminal if the battery is still connected?
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Old Feb 9, 2020 | 06:31 PM
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I guess they have it all figured out.
I've been using battery maintainers for many years on all kinds of equipment and I have always connected right to the terminals.
I don't see what difference it makes as long as you have a good connection.
If it was me I would connect it right to the terminals and walk away.
Good luck!
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Old Feb 9, 2020 | 06:39 PM
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I am also using a Ctek on the Optima red top installed in my car (for periodic winter hibernation). I recall seeing the same thing in the instructions and was somewhat baffled by it...not sure why it would matter. I have attached it to the negative terminal before...car hasn't blow apart, battery melted, electronics fried, etc...yet.

The work-around could be to use the C5's chassis ground point that is located in-board next to / just below where the battery sits. It looks like a tall threaded stud.

A permanent set-up could be to use a Ctek pigtail connected to the secondary positive terminal (engine compartment fuse box) and the aforementioned chassis ground point.

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Old Feb 9, 2020 | 08:48 PM
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I will answer this for you..

Batteries build up explosive hydrogen gas, that's why they are vented in a Corvette.. not all batteries are vented out of the car.. the idea of connecting the negative term away from the battery is just some insurance that a spark will not be too close to the source, as would be if connected to the neg term.and cause an explosion.. Ive seen it happen, and its ugly... the battery blows apart acid everywhere and sometime a fire.
Its the reason.. and its credible... but rarely done...
Hope this helps..// IM a wealth of useless knowledge and not just another pretty face.
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Old Feb 9, 2020 | 09:04 PM
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I use the CTek with the 12v (cigarette lighter) plug, super simple.
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Old Feb 9, 2020 | 09:09 PM
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I have the slightly older Ctek 4.3 model and I've connected to terminals every single day for probably close to 5 years now.
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Just offering the reason... for the warning . years ago batteries had fill caps, visible electrolyte, and vents.. if you had a bad voltage regulator the electrolyte in the battery could boil leaving a noticeable aroma, this is very explosive and caused many explosions. a bad regulator would cause a battery malfunction and an ensuing jump would be initiated and the potential for an explosion led to this proceedure.
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I have seen the after effects of an exploded battery and it's not pretty. However, if you follow one simple rule the chances of a battery exploding in your face is not good.
The rule is NEVER CONNECT OR DISCONNECT THE CHARGER TO OR FROM THE BATTERY IF IT IS PLUGGED IN!
Always hook up the charger or maintainer before you plug it in the wall away from the battery.
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The Battery, itself has a charge. even if you are just putting it on a tender...so the idea of a spark occurring from the charger only is NOT correct... even if the charger is not hooked up, a spark from the battery itself connecting it to an unplugged charger/tender )can cause this explosion. If you want to be safe, ( especially if you need a jump out on the road ), always connect the positive to the battery first but connect the negative to a grounding point away from the battery. For those using the cigarette plug adapter, there is no issue.

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Old Feb 10, 2020 | 10:17 AM
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Question...if you have one of the close topped batteries, the areas is well ventilated, can the explosion still happen? I remember the old style batteries and it could happen more frequently with those.
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Originally Posted by doublenut9
Question...if you have one of the close topped batteries, the areas is well ventilated, can the explosion still happen? I remember the old style batteries and it could happen more frequently with those.
This proceedure was adopted many years ago... Batteries still emit gases, while much less,, there is still the potential. IN a C5 where the battery is in an open engine bay, its a bit safer than in an enclosed box like a C7.... the risk is minimal in 2020, but its still there.. anyone who is a progressive thinker would want to eliminate ANY risk.. especially since this is just a small change in proceedure with no additional effort. For many. any change no matter how small ,is too much and they always revert back to ( that's not how we did it in the old days ).. in fact most people here learned how to hook up to battery from some one who learned it from someone else back in the 50's. I always do it, this correct way because there is no additional effort, just a change in the mind set... and I am an Old Guy... seeing a battery explode is not a sight to behold... if it happens to you, you will never hook up a battery the wrong way again.. If a battery explodes in your face while hooking it up.… well you can guess the outcome.
No the sky is not falling.,..
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Old Feb 10, 2020 | 10:38 AM
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Batteries today can be defective, Some crack, leak etc... if you have a defective battery because an internal short ( and you dont know it ) and creates a crack or a leak and are stuck some where looking for a jump, this is where you could get into trouble in 2020.
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Old Feb 12, 2020 | 10:19 AM
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ET's explanation above is also why jumper cables are supposed to be hooked up with the neg cables clamped to a ground source in each vehicle and not directly to the neg terminals. It's basically to prevent sparks which could cause an explosion.

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