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Old Apr 11, 2021 | 09:00 PM
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Quick question, will the big brake kit ie, C6 Z06, Wilwood, TSP Motorsports, Power Stop fit behind 18'F X 19'R Grand Sport replica rims?
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Old Apr 12, 2021 | 12:21 AM
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18 x 8.5 - 19 x 9.5 widths? I seriously doubt those wheels would fit over big brake kits.
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it all depends on the size of the "Big Brake" kit itself. For example my car is a 2004 Commemorative Edition Z06 with the 17" front wheels that are polished from GM. They are a one year wheel specific to this car, so I did not want to change them. So rather then just buy an off the shelf kit from someone, I called and spoke with Wilwood. We designed the largest caliper and largest rotor that would clear my 17" wheel. The standard kit on their site will not clear it, but after building my own kit I now have a 6 piston large caliper and rotor up front and larger one in the rear as well.
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Originally Posted by zipity
it all depends on the size of the "Big Brake" kit itself. For example my car is a 2004 Commemorative Edition Z06 with the 17" front wheels that are polished from GM. They are a one year wheel specific to this car, so I did not want to change them. So rather then just buy an off the shelf kit from someone, I called and spoke with Wilwood. We designed the largest caliper and largest rotor that would clear my 17" wheel. The standard kit on their site will not clear it, but after building my own kit I now have a 6 piston large caliper and rotor up front and larger one in the rear as well.
Please post some photos.
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Old Apr 13, 2021 | 10:57 AM
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The Wilwood's probably will. C6Z prob not, they're chubby.
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Originally Posted by zipity
it all depends on the size of the "Big Brake" kit itself. For example my car is a 2004 Commemorative Edition Z06 with the 17" front wheels that are polished from GM. They are a one year wheel specific to this car, so I did not want to change them. So rather then just buy an off the shelf kit from someone, I called and spoke with Wilwood. We designed the largest caliper and largest rotor that would clear my 17" wheel. The standard kit on their site will not clear it, but after building my own kit I now have a 6 piston large caliper and rotor up front and larger one in the rear as well.
WOW! I never knew that was an option! I like the idea of a BBK, but I'm not willing to swap out to larger rims to get one. A custom fit kit is something that I might actually consider. It never occurred to me that was something Wilwood would be willing to do. If you don't mind me asking, how much did they charge you for them?
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Originally Posted by zipity
it all depends on the size of the "Big Brake" kit itself. For example my car is a 2004 Commemorative Edition Z06 with the 17" front wheels that are polished from GM. They are a one year wheel specific to this car, so I did not want to change them. So rather then just buy an off the shelf kit from someone, I called and spoke with Wilwood. We designed the largest caliper and largest rotor that would clear my 17" wheel. The standard kit on their site will not clear it, but after building my own kit I now have a 6 piston large caliper and rotor up front and larger one in the rear as well.
More info please
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Wilwoods were built to clear factory rims except the wagon wheels. My LPE HRE’s were made for big brakes. Although I did have an issue where the inside of the rivets were touching my Wilwood caliper. I did have a 13” rotor kit originally but upgraded to the 14”. I do run a very thin spacer in the front only. 13” would have been no issue and no spacer required.
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[QUOTE=Jason Blue Boost;1603300677]Wilwoods were built to clear factory rims except the wagon wheels. My LPE HRE’s were made for big brakes. Although I did have an issue where the inside of the rivets were touching my Wilwood caliper. I did have a 13” rotor kit originally but upgraded to the 14”. I do run a very thin spacer in the front only. 13” would have been no issue and no spacer required.[QUOTE]

Wilwood does offer a brake kit that will fit the oem 17" wheels. However, they utilize a 4 piston caliper, not a 6 piston, with 13" or smaller rotors. zipity said Wilwood they built him a bbk with 6 piston units. Some of us would like to see his set-up.

Jason, if you have 14" rotors and 6 piston calipers now, you're obviously not running a 17" front wheel, correct?

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Originally Posted by Blac Avy
Quick question, will the big brake kit ie, C6 Z06, Wilwood, TSP Motorsports, Power Stop fit behind 18'F X 19'R Grand Sport replica rims?
Thanks!
You may need a spacer. Check with Willwood tech.
Good luck
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Old Apr 14, 2021 | 04:31 PM
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Sorry folks I didn't realize you asked for more details, which I will grab later tonight. I did snap this quick picture of the car, you can see the tire/wheel size as a 17" and the caliper calling out the 6 piston set up. This is the OEM 17" Z06 wheel.

And yes I realize my tires have a 2013 date code, the new michelins are waiting to be installed.


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Okay Guys, sorry for the delay I am going off of some old paperwork, as I did this back in 2014.

But onto the information. At the time I called and spoke with a tech at Wilwood rather than just buying a standard set up online from them or any other retailer. My goal was to run a 6 piston set up in the front and a 4 piston set up in the rear, without having to change out my OEM sized 17" front & 18" rear wheels. So I guess technically you can consider this a "Big Brake" set up since it is bigger than the factory set up.

The fronts are the Superlite 6 Piston Big Brake Radial Mount Super Lite Caliper. They use a GT 48 Curved Vane (slotted). These fit and clear the OEM 17" wheel, no issues with rubbing at all. Brake Pad Plate is 7416, and that is the same size brake pad plate that the rear caliper uses, so no need to worry about ordering front or rear sized pads, they are both the same.


The rears are Forged Narrow Superlite 4r Big Brake Kit, with the GT 48 Curved Vane (slotted) rotor.

Also upgraded the brake lines to stainless steel lines and I have all the part numbers if you are really interested in the set up. I am really happy with the set up and the calipers make for very easy pad replacements, as I swap out pads from a street compound to the more aggressive track compound when I am headed to the track.

FRONTS - SIX PISTON




REARS FOUR PISTON




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One question for clarity Zipity, the rotors are OEM sizes, correct?

Even so, I’d say it’s a “big” brake upgrade with the six and four piston calipers and slotted rotors.

But then, I don’t know who wrote the definition of “Big Brake Kit” either ???
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