Get it smogged by Monday!
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Drifting
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From: Torrance Calif
Get it smogged by Monday!
As you should know, if you live in Calif, Monday there are new smog inspection laws.
https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a3...g-smog-checks/
I called a friend who has a C5 Z06 with an S/C and an incredibly loud exhaust and told him to get it smogged by Monday.
He freaked and took it in today.
I got a call from him, it passed!
He is so freaking happy, at least for the next two years.
https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a3...g-smog-checks/
I called a friend who has a C5 Z06 with an S/C and an incredibly loud exhaust and told him to get it smogged by Monday.
He freaked and took it in today.
I got a call from him, it passed!
He is so freaking happy, at least for the next two years.
Last edited by heavymetals; Jul 17, 2021 at 05:54 PM.
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Seeing this warning is getting a lot of attention (and rightfully so). If you have a tune associated with CARB approved hardware (e.g CARB approve supercharger setup), you should be alright. This is what I was told when I contacted A&A Corvette about this. Their S/C kits are CARB certified.
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Good luck to all the CA owners. Glad we do not have smog checks here.
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Seeing this warning is getting a lot of attention (and rightfully so). If you have a tune associated with CARB approved hardware (e.g CARB approve supercharger setup), you should be alright. This is what I was told when I contacted A&A Corvette about this. Their S/C kits are CARB certified.
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Here is some info:
Department of Justice consent decree states: "According to the schedule outlined in this Paragraph, Defendants shall not manufacture, offer for sale, sell, convey, or otherwise transfer any product intended for use on vehicles of model years 2000 and newer that contains user-adjustable features for the following: rear oxygen sensors, EGR, or any DTCs associated with these emission controls. Defendants shall remove these user-adjustable features from any of its Calibrations intended for use on vehicles of model years 2000 and newer prior to sale by the following dates: no later than June 1, 2019, for all of their Calibrations compatible with any Ford vehicles; no later than December 1, 2019, for all of their Calibrations compatible with any General Motor (GM) vehicles; and no later than August 1, 2020, for all of their Calibrations compatible with any other vehicles."
From what I read, you can still "tune" your vehicle, you just can't turn off any sensors or monitors anymore.
If your tune trips a check engine light, good luck.
Department of Justice consent decree states: "According to the schedule outlined in this Paragraph, Defendants shall not manufacture, offer for sale, sell, convey, or otherwise transfer any product intended for use on vehicles of model years 2000 and newer that contains user-adjustable features for the following: rear oxygen sensors, EGR, or any DTCs associated with these emission controls. Defendants shall remove these user-adjustable features from any of its Calibrations intended for use on vehicles of model years 2000 and newer prior to sale by the following dates: no later than June 1, 2019, for all of their Calibrations compatible with any Ford vehicles; no later than December 1, 2019, for all of their Calibrations compatible with any General Motor (GM) vehicles; and no later than August 1, 2020, for all of their Calibrations compatible with any other vehicles."
From what I read, you can still "tune" your vehicle, you just can't turn off any sensors or monitors anymore.
If your tune trips a check engine light, good luck.
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So I went to the SMOG test station, totally unaware of this new BS, and my car failed. It fails "OBD System Checks". It's been a long time since I did anything to my car, but I thought I put the PCM back to stock. I used LS1 Edit a very long time ago, and then when I put the stock cams back in, I thought I put it back to stock, but I may not have. Or maybe LS1 Edit restoring the stock PCM isn't completely stock. I don't have the LS1 Edit anymore as I bought it with a friend and after I didn't need it anymore, I just gave it to him full-time. What's the latest in hardware for PCM programming? Like if I want to save what I have in my PCM now before I go to the dealer and get it reflashed back to stock.
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CA has been retarded for a long time. I had a '96 Eclipse turbo bought new. 6 (8?) years down the road and it has to get smogged for first time and it fails for flags not cleared. Did some research and found that Mitsubishi had bug that reset drive pattern flags on engine start. Smog test looked to see if any set at all. Other manufacturers had similar problems but spent the money to get waivers. Mitsubishi didnt bother. Had to pay the dealer to put it through all the drive patterns on a treadmill and then smog it without turning off the power. That was nearly 20 years ago.
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Yes these CARB rules are driving me crazy. I had to get my 04 commemorative smogged recently and some of the monitors were'nt reset (changed out the battery a month prior to checking for smog). We really don't drive the car too much other than long trips or weekends. I had to put over 1100 miles on the car to get the car to get them to reset! I know the GM driving cycle by heart now for sure.
Like I said we don't drive the car much and to drive it over 1000 miles needlessly to pass smog gripes my *** and shows the stupidity of some of rules and regs in Cali.
Like I said we don't drive the car much and to drive it over 1000 miles needlessly to pass smog gripes my *** and shows the stupidity of some of rules and regs in Cali.
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Fortunately, I acquired my 2004 Vert A4 with 21,500 miles a couple of months ago before any of this applied. The car sat for 3 years before I picked it up. I put a new red top battery in it, drove it to America's Tire for new shoes and then about 50 miles home from there. I cleared any and all DIC codes I could find before driving over to the local smog station. She passed with flying colors. The car is bone stock and likely to stay that way. Hopefully, things will go as smoothly in 2 years when I have to do it all over again.
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Fortunately, I acquired my 2004 Vert A4 with 21,500 miles a couple of months ago before any of this applied. The car sat for 3 years before I picked it up. I put a new red top battery in it, drove it to America's Tire for new shoes and then about 50 miles home from there. I cleared any and all DIC codes I could find before driving over to the local smog station. She passed with flying colors. The car is bone stock and likely to stay that way. Hopefully, things will go as smoothly in 2 years when I have to do it all over again.
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Luck yeah, had you tried to BREATHE in south California before smog laws and checks for car engines you'd be "glad"?... to Not have smog checks?... Seams as California smog laws have saved countless people from carbonmonoxide stink and from sickness and death!... Me having to breath other state's car emissions when they were visiting California was always sickening.... Stink? Try driving around Mexico, cars without emission checks, and breathe at the same time!
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I can't tell you why. Maybe there was something I didn't clear. I literally drove about 2 miles to the smog station and passed. He poked around a lot on the visual part of the test trying to find something aftermarket. But, I passed and drove directly from the smog station to AAA to complete the registration process and pick up a new set of plates (previous owner had vanity plates they wanted to keep).
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This just seems like one more regulation closer to forcing the public to buy into the EV idea
These cars are 20 years old. How are we supposed to know if the tune has been changed in those 20 years and if it has, where are you suppose to go to change it back if the tuners are not allowed to modify the program
These cars are 20 years old. How are we supposed to know if the tune has been changed in those 20 years and if it has, where are you suppose to go to change it back if the tuners are not allowed to modify the program