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Old Aug 3, 2021 | 12:02 AM
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My 2002 Z06 has a short shifter installed. Not sure of the brand or whether it's an MGW. Besides the fact that getting into reverse is an adventure with gears grinding away until it pops in, the feel is too tight for my taste. Soooooo, do I reinstall the OEM shifter so many complain about or go another route?

There are many opinions. I'm looking for smooth shifting and don't mind the standard OEM throw distance. What can you 'all recommend that is available? Much appreciated.

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Old Aug 3, 2021 | 07:17 AM
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I just purchased a c5 a month ago and it came with the c6 shifter. I've been happy with it so far, but don't have much to compare to
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Old Aug 3, 2021 | 07:19 AM
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Do the antivenom mod and leave it alone.


I would never go from a short shifter to the stock dump truck monstrosity even if you paid me. This will 100% reduce shifter effort if it is an issue for you.
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For a smooth shifter the C6Z is very good, another would be to get the T-MOD shifter with a 5% reduction in throw either way do the Anti-Venom washer(s). Smooth shifter and the C6Z give you a more comfortable angle. For competition or a short throw, the MGW or 20% T-mod is the way to go. IMHO
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Old Aug 3, 2021 | 08:54 AM
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I am happy with my MGW.
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Old Aug 3, 2021 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Stingroo
Do the antivenom mod and leave it alone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9_uP3vpsJk

I would never go from a short shifter to the stock dump truck monstrosity even if you paid me. This will 100% reduce shifter effort if it is an issue for you.
Interesting. Now I know what the antivenom mod is. My shifter won't go into reverse without issues-- grinding gears being the worst and something I can't and won't live with. Might this be an install issue, fitment issue, shifter malfunction issue, or who knows-- right? Just wondering if you have any thoughts on what to do. I might try to remove and reinstall the shifter, pain in the butt as that will be. Thanks!
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MGW with 1 washer Anti-venom.
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MGW with 1 washer Anti-venom.
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Originally Posted by vamvaketis
Interesting. Now I know what the antivenom mod is. My shifter won't go into reverse without issues-- grinding gears being the worst and something I can't and won't live with. Might this be an install issue, fitment issue, shifter malfunction issue, or who knows-- right? Just wondering if you have any thoughts on what to do. I might try to remove and reinstall the shifter, pain in the butt as that will be. Thanks!

Did you install it with the alignment tool?

My car came with a short shifter already installed and I've never touched it after that, but I do know the AV mod made a big difference in shift effort. I have two washers in it right now and in fact I think it's TOO light, so I'm going to take one back out eventually. Just haven't got around to it.
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Originally Posted by Stingroo
Did you install it with the alignment tool?

My car came with a short shifter already installed and I've never touched it after that, but I do know the AV mod made a big difference in shift effort. I have two washers in it right now and in fact I think it's TOO light, so I'm going to take one back out eventually. Just haven't got around to it.
Same. My car came with the short shifter installed. Reverse does not work properly with severe grinding of the gears when initially engaged. Drives me nuts! Looks like I have some decisions to make... (1) reinstall short shifter and hope it works right; (2) If short shifter works after reinstalling then install AV mod with one washer; (2) go with C6 Z06 shifter.
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I don't see how a C6Z shifter is the way to go in any scenario here - that just means throwing more good money after bad.

I would personally do that in reverse order. Antivenom mod first, then try alignment.
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Originally Posted by vamvaketis
Interesting. Now I know what the antivenom mod is. My shifter won't go into reverse without issues-- grinding gears being the worst and something I can't and won't live with. Might this be an install issue, fitment issue, shifter malfunction issue, or who knows-- right? Just wondering if you have any thoughts on what to do. I might try to remove and reinstall the shifter, pain in the butt as that will be. Thanks!
Does it grind all the time? If you put the shifter into sixth and then quickly shift into reverse does it still grind? If you're in neutraland wait a while before shifting into reverse does it grind? Is it easy to get into reverse and shift through all the gears if the engine is off with key on?
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Antivenom mod + alignment, see how you like it
I have a short shifter and it's OK
My fave was actually a shortened stock shifter with Tmod rebuilt lower box + anti venom mod.
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Old Aug 3, 2021 | 05:19 PM
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Does it grind all the time? If you put the shifter into sixth and then quickly shift into reverse does it still grind? If you're in neutraland wait a while before shifting into reverse does it grind? Is it easy to get into reverse and shift through all the gears if the engine is off with key on?
It grinds from standstill and/or upon start-up when shifting into reverse. Thus, it goes into reverse gear but isn't properly engaged. When it is engaged, there is a slight "pop" and then it goes into reverse without grinding. Someone mentioned something about an installation tool with the short shift kit. Since I did not perform the installation I know nothing about any tools, tips, or tricks to proper installation. I'm open to any suggestions other than removal and reinstallation and seeing if that does the trick.
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Originally Posted by Stingroo
I don't see how a C6Z shifter is the way to go in any scenario here - that just means throwing more good money after bad.

I would personally do that in reverse order. Antivenom mod first, then try alignment.
I think your suggestion is a good one. I only dread having to go through the hassle of removing the console plastic parts, not breaking anything, reinstalling the short shift kit, and only having the same issue. Yeah I know... just gotta do it and hope for the best.
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Old Aug 3, 2021 | 05:34 PM
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Yeah, I mean, the console removal is actually pretty easy/low risk - but definitely not as easy as the AV mod. I'd start there 100%.
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One thing. With the T56 there is "slop" in the transmission itself, which does not get better with age. Not much you can do about that short of an tranny rebuild - expensive. It does mean you should steer clear of a shifter that has any restrictions or limits on throws. That's a "feature" that will just get in the way and can contribute to failing to fully engage a gear.

I've tried a couple of alternatives and have ended up with a cut down original shift lever, combined with a rebuilt lower box and a tightened up "shift ball" mechanism - not hard to do incidentally.
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Old Aug 4, 2021 | 08:31 PM
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Anyone try the tmod iso shifter? I've seen plenty of people mention the box. Don't remember seeing the whole shifter last time I visited their site.
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He makes two versions - 5% reduction and 20% reduction.
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Originally Posted by vamvaketis
Interesting. Now I know what the antivenom mod is. My shifter won't go into reverse without issues-- grinding gears being the worst and something I can't and won't live with. Might this be an install issue, fitment issue, shifter malfunction issue, or who knows-- right? Just wondering if you have any thoughts on what to do. I might try to remove and reinstall the shifter, pain in the butt as that will be. Thanks!
Have you tried doing the "neutral gate" adjustment?
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