Meth required for ECS kit?
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Meth required for ECS kit?
Greeting all!!!
Just recently purchased a ECS SC1500 supercharger kit (being shipped right now) for my 2004 Corvette with a TSP V2 cam, currently makes 363 WHP, and i was wondering what everyones opinion was in regards to a meth kit.
Do you think its required?
Would you recommend it?
My power goals are 500-550 WHP.
Any advice from you genius gentleman would be greatly appreciated!
Just recently purchased a ECS SC1500 supercharger kit (being shipped right now) for my 2004 Corvette with a TSP V2 cam, currently makes 363 WHP, and i was wondering what everyones opinion was in regards to a meth kit.
Do you think its required?
Would you recommend it?
My power goals are 500-550 WHP.
Any advice from you genius gentleman would be greatly appreciated!
Melting Slicks
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St. Jude Donor '21
My hunch is that 91 octane might work if timing is not too aggressive - but honestly, I would talk to ECS about your combo and ask their advice - they have probably done dozens just like it and would have the best opinion. Otherwise whomever tunes should set the timing based upon if you are running meth or not. I have a similar kit with around 550RWHP and I do things kinda different - I blend my fuel and have tuned it to E33 which is around 95 octane or so - it made a nice difference over 91 octane pump gas.
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No freaking way! I'm literally watching your videos on youtube right now! how cool.
Thanks for the advice! I'm leaning towards more running 93 pump gas with conservative tuning, its my daily driver.....
Love your videos btw.
Thanks for the advice! I'm leaning towards more running 93 pump gas with conservative tuning, its my daily driver.....
Love your videos btw.
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If you dont mind me asking, whats your limiter set at? Are you on stock bottom end?
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Greeting all!!!
Just recently purchased a ECS SC1500 supercharger kit (being shipped right now) for my 2004 Corvette with a TSP V2 cam, currently makes 363 WHP, and i was wondering what everyones opinion was in regards to a meth kit.
Do you think its required?
Would you recommend it?
My power goals are 500-550 WHP.
Any advice from you genius gentleman would be greatly appreciated!
Just recently purchased a ECS SC1500 supercharger kit (being shipped right now) for my 2004 Corvette with a TSP V2 cam, currently makes 363 WHP, and i was wondering what everyones opinion was in regards to a meth kit.
Do you think its required?
Would you recommend it?
My power goals are 500-550 WHP.
Any advice from you genius gentleman would be greatly appreciated!
634rwhp/568rwtq.
Rev limiter is set at 6500 now. It was 6800 prior to the procharger.
Car was at 418rwhp/398rwtq with 4.10s NA.
You'll love the new power when you want it and how it drives when just cruising around town.
It's awesome.
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Out of the box I got 561whp/560 wtq with MSD Air Force IM, headers and 90mm TB. It upped to 633/596 with Texas Speed cam, both on 93 octane no AI. I ran this for 5 years no issues. I just put smaller pully and added meth injection, it's getting tuned next week. So no, you don't need meth on the standard pulley.
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St. Jude Donor '21
Little more info on this subject. When a tuner is optimizing the timing part of the tune he is looking for maximum brake torque (MBT). A lot of times, the combo will be limited by the engine experiencing knock before reaching the ideal amount of ignition timing.
If this happens you have the following choices to make (or a combo of choices)
Good luck!
Toys
If this happens you have the following choices to make (or a combo of choices)
- Go a little richer on the WOT air fuel ratio - to a certain point - richer lessens knock.
- Leave the timing lower than ideal and live with less horsepower
- Increase the octane of your fuel (i.e. 93 pump vs 91
- Or switch to a greater ethanol content of your fuel (increases octane and cooling effect from the ethanol)
- Go with meth injection
- Use a bigger blower pulley to have less boost.
- I am sure I missed something??
Good luck!
Toys
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Out of the box I got 561whp/560 wtq with MSD Air Force IM, headers and 90mm TB. It upped to 633/596 with Texas Speed cam, both on 93 octane no AI. I ran this for 5 years no issues. I just put smaller pully and added meth injection, it's getting tuned next week. So no, you don't need meth on the standard pulley.
No meth for me! (lol)
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Thank you Toys,
off topic question, did you replace your fuel pump to a stage 1 that A/A offers, or did you run a boost a pump style?
ECS says its only good up to 550 WHP which is fine for me, but i've been reading on the forums a little, and some people are having issues with it.
I went with the boost a pump option, but now i'm slightly regretting this decision.
What do you gents think?
off topic question, did you replace your fuel pump to a stage 1 that A/A offers, or did you run a boost a pump style?
ECS says its only good up to 550 WHP which is fine for me, but i've been reading on the forums a little, and some people are having issues with it.
I went with the boost a pump option, but now i'm slightly regretting this decision.
What do you gents think?
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St. Jude Donor '21
Thank you Toys,
off topic question, did you replace your fuel pump to a stage 1 that A/A offers, or did you run a boost a pump style?
ECS says its only good up to 550 WHP which is fine for me, but i've been reading on the forums a little, and some people are having issues with it.
I went with the boost a pump option, but now i'm slightly regretting this decision.
What do you gents think?
off topic question, did you replace your fuel pump to a stage 1 that A/A offers, or did you run a boost a pump style?
ECS says its only good up to 550 WHP which is fine for me, but i've been reading on the forums a little, and some people are having issues with it.
I went with the boost a pump option, but now i'm slightly regretting this decision.
What do you gents think?