I can't do a burnout
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I can't do a burnout
OK, I can use some constructive advice.
I have never in my life done a burn out. My cars have either been AWD, FWD, underpowered or too expensive for me to have the courage to risk. Until now.
I got a 2000 C5 in sad shape (and cheap). I've gotten it back to 95% of acceptable.
It has a bad ABS unit, so there is no ABS or traction control. It's also an automatic.
The car pulls strong to 100 mph (as tested in . . . Mexico).
The car revs freely to 6k in neutral.
When I put it in drive, foot on the brake, foot on the gas, it won't rev above 1200 and sounds rough. If I push the TC button, nothing changes (since I have a dead ABS pump, I have no TC).
It feels like the computer knows what I'm doing and is nannying me.
What am I doing wrong?
Thank you.
I have never in my life done a burn out. My cars have either been AWD, FWD, underpowered or too expensive for me to have the courage to risk. Until now.
I got a 2000 C5 in sad shape (and cheap). I've gotten it back to 95% of acceptable.
It has a bad ABS unit, so there is no ABS or traction control. It's also an automatic.
The car pulls strong to 100 mph (as tested in . . . Mexico).
The car revs freely to 6k in neutral.
When I put it in drive, foot on the brake, foot on the gas, it won't rev above 1200 and sounds rough. If I push the TC button, nothing changes (since I have a dead ABS pump, I have no TC).
It feels like the computer knows what I'm doing and is nannying me.
What am I doing wrong?
Thank you.
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Moving this to C5 Tech for perhaps an answer.
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Why would you want to do a burnout? Two new rear tires are probably 600-800 installed, mounting, balancing, and road hazard. And you probably have the 2.73 gears in your automatic. Good luck doing a burnout. Just drive that car and enjoy it.
So, put some water in front of the rear tires, roll in the water, brake torque it in the water, and you should have a burnout.
So, put some water in front of the rear tires, roll in the water, brake torque it in the water, and you should have a burnout.
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Also, the rear tires on it are almost done. I have no objection to hastening their passing on to the afterlife!
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Pressing the traction control button once turns off both traction control and stability control.
If you can't do a burnout with traction control off the same will apply to "competitive mode".
As mentioned above you likely have the lazy 2.73 gear. Which requires you power brake the car to get the wheels to spin with traction control off.
I'm no A4 guy but the 2.73 gear without a trans tune just doesn't like doing what you're trying to do. Could be it's struggling to overcome the torque management system. Which is why it's falling on its face at 1200rpm when you try. A4 guys will need to call BS on my assumption.
Swap in a 3.42 and a bigger stall converter and get the trans tuned. It will feel like you bought a different car.
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I have done a burnout a couple of times in my C5. Incredibly easy. I have an automatic, 2:73 gears. TC off, slight brake torque, floor it. Got all the burnout I could stand.
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I know what you mean, I have a 3.73 RPM gear and Yank 3200. Although, mine grips pretty well in 90 degree heat if I just flash the converter, traction control on. When it’s 50-55 degrees out, I can spin the tires through first gear, and halfway through 2nd gear. If I burn my tires up fast enough I can get a drag radial. FYI, I really don’t care what I spend on tires, just have fun on a closed course when nobody is around, or empty parking lot/warehouse lot. Please don’t end up in a ditch, or worse, crash into someone else.
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Manuals and Autos will do burn outs for what they are worth.
The hard part is putting all the traction to the ground and not spinning the tires.
A friend of mine years ago used to street race. He won all the time. I asked him how he beat the other cars with bigger engines and such. He launched his car and all I heard was a chirp when it shifted. Soft tires and altered and set up suspension put the power to the ground. Once he launched he was several car lengths ahead and they never recovered. For every spin around of their tires he was one roll out of a tire ahead.
I just never got off on burn outs.. Tires are expensive and I could spin tires all all day in my stock 350 70 Monte Carlo.. We built my Chevelle to launch and it would bite and lift the left front tire off the ground. To me that was more fun. Though the ladder bars were horrible for ride
Just my take on this.
The hard part is putting all the traction to the ground and not spinning the tires.
A friend of mine years ago used to street race. He won all the time. I asked him how he beat the other cars with bigger engines and such. He launched his car and all I heard was a chirp when it shifted. Soft tires and altered and set up suspension put the power to the ground. Once he launched he was several car lengths ahead and they never recovered. For every spin around of their tires he was one roll out of a tire ahead.
I just never got off on burn outs.. Tires are expensive and I could spin tires all all day in my stock 350 70 Monte Carlo.. We built my Chevelle to launch and it would bite and lift the left front tire off the ground. To me that was more fun. Though the ladder bars were horrible for ride
Just my take on this.
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Manuals and Autos will do burn outs for what they are worth.
The hard part is putting all the traction to the ground and not spinning the tires.
A friend of mine years ago used to street race. He won all the time. I asked him how he beat the other cars with bigger engines and such. He launched his car and all I heard was a chirp when it shifted. Soft tires and altered and set up suspension put the power to the ground. Once he launched he was several car lengths ahead and they never recovered. For every spin around of their tires he was one roll out of a tire ahead.
I just never got off on burn outs.. Tires are expensive and I could spin tires all all day in my stock 350 70 Monte Carlo.. We built my Chevelle to launch and it would bite and lift the left front tire off the ground. To me that was more fun. Though the ladder bars were horrible for ride
Just my take on this.
The hard part is putting all the traction to the ground and not spinning the tires.
A friend of mine years ago used to street race. He won all the time. I asked him how he beat the other cars with bigger engines and such. He launched his car and all I heard was a chirp when it shifted. Soft tires and altered and set up suspension put the power to the ground. Once he launched he was several car lengths ahead and they never recovered. For every spin around of their tires he was one roll out of a tire ahead.
I just never got off on burn outs.. Tires are expensive and I could spin tires all all day in my stock 350 70 Monte Carlo.. We built my Chevelle to launch and it would bite and lift the left front tire off the ground. To me that was more fun. Though the ladder bars were horrible for ride
Just my take on this.
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I have the 3.15 gears and have always been able to spin the tires. That was before I got the supercharger. I agree that the real trick is getting the tires to hook up without spinning. I've never really been into burnouts though. Good luck to the OP.
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If he doesn't have functioning ABS nor traction control he should still be able to do a burnout. Neither of the two once malfunctioned or turned off will hinder the ability to roast the tires. Quite the opposite actually.
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The OP should be able, to do, a burn out, if his
engine is tuned (stock). I have a car that can do a
burnout ,in 4th gear with a 273 rear.. Like has been said,
grip and bite of the tire, are more inportant. Control is
the key.
engine is tuned (stock). I have a car that can do a
burnout ,in 4th gear with a 273 rear.. Like has been said,
grip and bite of the tire, are more inportant. Control is
the key.
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The original Goodyear tire spun and smoked easily. When I got rid of them and got Hankook V12's I had to work harder to break them loose. Some tires stick better than others.
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