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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 07:47 AM
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Default Help me decide..... Vararam or Vortex Rammer?

Im leaning toward vararam but was curious to get some input from you guys. thanks :banghead:
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 08:22 AM
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They are both expensive and involved, and it seems the vararam comes with a very cheap filter. In a worst case senario the vararam seems safer against water ingestion. I have a Halltech and I really like the batwing, just installed one on a freinds car. Have you looked at the blackwing?
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 10:09 AM
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 10:12 AM
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The Vararam costs twice as much, and to the contrary, it would be more susceptable to water ingestion vs the Vortex Rammer. I personally don't think it's worth the extra $200 for minimal if any gains over the Rammer
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 10:26 AM
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We sell both and the Blackwing.


We've had a ton of happy customers with greatly improved track times with the V/R. Results is what it's about.:)

The COLD AIR(VR being one of them) kits will out perform the non cold air kits.:) Their manufacturers will tell you that, and have, in print on-line.:eek::)


Here is a recent article on the V/R:
http://www.vararam.com/vr1b_article01.html

No pulling of the front bumper either.:)





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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 10:39 AM
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Oh, give him a break, this question is never, ever going to go away! :lolg:
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 10:40 AM
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I personally don't think it's worth the extra $200 for minimal if any gains over the Rammer
This is still something that nobody has actually tested. I never tried the Vortex, but I got good results with the VR. Most cars will turn better times with the VR. My car now traps higher and gets lower ETs at the same time. That shows a true gain. I am recording faster cylinder fill rates and higher MAF rates. Mix that with the proper amount of fuel and you will make more power.

Stock dyno:

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VR Dyno with lower temp TStat and some LS1Edit tweaks done by me:

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There can always be exceptions to the rule so there is no guarantee that every single car will see the gains I got.
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 12:07 PM
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Default Re: Help me decide..... Vararam or Vortex Rammer? (rbartick)

This is still something that nobody has actually tested. I never tried the Vortex, but I got good results with the VR.
You will see similar ET and MPH gains with the Vortex Rammer..... :yesnod: :yesnod: :cheers:
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 12:12 PM
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Blackwing. Good enough for DRM and LPE...good enough for me.
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 12:45 PM
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The VR will beat the BW any day of the week on a similar equipped car. Cold air kits perform better. Whether you like the install or look or design or price is up to the individual.:)

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That's outstanding info rbartick, but is it the "ram" design or the very high flow filter?
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 01:05 PM
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You can't go wrong with either one you pick.

BTW. I've got the Vararam installed.
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 02:19 PM
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That's outstanding info rbartick, but is it the "ram" design or the very high flow filter?
Dyno gains obviously do not take advantage of any "ram" characteristics. I do not know if the "ram" design is actually responsible for any of the 1/4 mile gains I've seen. I don't really bother with the whole "ram air" debate anymore since that is not a selling point for me. I've seen small gains in MAP with the VR, but I do not know if they are large enough to actually cause a power increase. Maybe not.

I just try to get a little more air into the motor and mix it with the proper amount of gas. I like the design of the VR since it just makes sense to me and it looks factory. Starting another ram air debate would be worthless.


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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 07:00 PM
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Starting another ram air debate would be worthless.
Ross,

You are absolutely 100 percent right!!
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Old Mar 13, 2003 | 01:30 AM
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I like the design of the VR since it just makes sense to me and it looks factory. Starting another ram air debate would be worthless.


[Modified by rbartick, 2:27 PM 3/12/2003]
Roger that! and I too like the VR design, had a friend with a MY Z06 with mod red, and painted his VR red, that was very nice looking the way it matched the beauty covers.
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Old Mar 14, 2003 | 09:39 PM
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The other day I came across a guy in a new Z06. I asked him if he'd opened up his intake, he said no. I have a '00 vert with Vortex, and I was able to stay within 1/2 car length of him up to about 80. The Varam looks great and doesn't require cutting a hole in the radiator plenum, but both will get rid of the blahs when stepping on the gas pedal.
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Old Mar 14, 2003 | 09:42 PM
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I chose Vortex.... :seeya
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Old Mar 14, 2003 | 10:17 PM
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For what it's worth - Rupert Bragg-Smith says it's bad to change them out. Says the stock has perfect flow for the Z06s.
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Old Mar 14, 2003 | 10:20 PM
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For what it's worth - Rupert Bragg-Smith says it's bad to change them out. Says the stock has perfect flow for the Z06s.

Yeh, but the engine will make more power with a Vararam or Vortex Rammer... :p:
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Old Mar 16, 2003 | 01:30 PM
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I went with the VORTEX and the POWER DUCT. Bought at RG's!
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