Which system is better for more horsepower and durability? :eek:

 

I would say VaraRam.. I love mine. The newest model is well built and deals with the water in the in-take issue that they and others have had. This will be a good intake to accomondate future mods like headers or Heads/Cam upgrades.

 

Oh no, here we goe with the big debate. :D :D

I have the Hall Tech TRIC bottom breather.

I am tired of hearing about water ingestion problems. :mad :mad

I drive my Z in the rain and not prob. one.

I have been caught in a down pour and no prob.

I am very satisfied with the Hall Tech it is a great product. :yesnod: :yesnod:

Darwin.

 

:sleep: :sleep: :_dupe: :_dupe: :sleep: :sleep:

 

:yesnod: :yesnod: Yeah :yesnod: :yesnod:

Darwin.

 

What about standing water? Is there any dange or ingesting water thats up to the nose of your car with the Halltech system?

 

With Halltechs new Trap system, If your in 11 inches of water, then you might have a problem. When was the last time you drove through an 11 inch deep puddle of water? Not sure of the depth of water that the VR can go through but I am sure it is no problem either. :cheers:

 

I got the new Halltech Tunnel Ram Intake and I love it. :party: Made a very noticable difference in performance. I highly recommend it. :flag

 

It's been a while since I piped in! :D

It really doesn't matter which one you choose. If you believe the ads, then you get more hp from some ductwork and a change of filter material than Chevy got by upgrading the LS-6 from 2001 to 2002.

That means that GM is SO DUMB that they chose to increase the valve lift (to .551/.547 the highest lift cam ever installed by GM in a Gen I, II, or III engine!), open and close the valves more aggressively, use exotic valves (23 grams lighter, exhausts filled with NaK), use stiffer valve springs, increase the compression ratio and increase the engine redline by 500 rpms - all these things to get from 385 hp to 405 hp from 2001 to 2002 - rather than simply redesign their air filter system!

I'm still a skeptic.

 

Racer - on my lowered car the bottom of the Vararam sits just over 7" off the pavement, so if I hit over 7" of water with enough forward force to propel the water UP through the tubes, THROUGH the filter, OVER the bridge to the T/B and still haven't had the good sense to shut it off I am in trouble :)

Like you said water is not a problem with these systems like the early TRIC.

To the original question - I suspect the differences are very little, so until I see a headers/Halltech combo running 120 MPH in the Atlanta heat, humidity and elevation I still vote for the Vararam, but Jim makes a quality product as well.

Les

 

:iagree:

 

Honestly I will go out on a limb here and say that GM is a little dumb. Obviously even the z06 air box (as redesigned as it is) is still restrictive. Otherwise the Zip Tie modded air boxes would not be producing the very good gains that they are. Now that is a good mod IMO.

And why didn't GM install headers on these cars from the factory if they were only looking for 20 more hp from 2001 to 2002 instead of all the fancy valves ???To answer your posted ? I doon't think you can go wrong with either setup. Both will give you better performance. Personally I went with the vararam. Just installed this past week and all I can say is that I am ver IMPRESSED with the performance gains. I expected the car to run better but, not an immediate SOTP difference. My car had slight problems staying hooked up in first gear with the stock air box but, now it has SERIOUS problems staying hooked up in first and breaks loose in second as well under WOT. I was going to work this morning and ran it up in second gear. When I got to around 4000 rpm the tires just started to spin away. I have not used the Halltech system so I can not comment on it but, the vararam is impressive for as simple as it is. Like others have said. It's really nothing more than some fancy duct work and a less restrictive filter but, it produces some serious hp.


[Modified by Z06ufgrad2002, 7:51 PM 6/3/2003]

 

To answer "why didn't GM do it?"...

Probably Noise emissions believe it or not. Intakes make noise.

 

I think Ripper hit the nail on the head. The car companies have more targets (emissions, noise, cost, reliability, etc) to meet than you can count. I've used several different intake/air inlets on a number of Vettes that I've owned and EVERY one of them made more noise.

One question? If GM is so dumb why are all of US buying their cars? :lolg:

 

I agree. Noise and emissions are huge considerations. Also the fact is that GM builds cars to appeal to a fairly wide audience, not unlike the members of this forum. Changing the filter on a CAI is a massive PITA compared to stock, especially the Vararam. Many of our members, who feel the power is more than adequate, would NEVER want the hassle. Also it is more difficult to tune with a CAI and headers, hence why they don't do that combo, as they use GENERIC tuning on the same cars that are sold in cities with high elevations like Colorado Springs as well as below sea level in New Orleans. GM must compromise, we don't HAVE to, so we can add a CAI and headers and, along with custom tuning, reliably increase power for where we live, how we drive the car, and our own mechanical ability and interest. This doesn't make me or GM dumb.

Les :cheers:

 

Here is some reading on the VR:

REVIEW DONE by Vetteweb.com

See the article here:

http://www.vararam.com/vr1b_article01.html

Comparison to others systems available:
http://www.vararam.com/vr1b_comparo01.html

Does RAM AIR work in a ROAD CAR?
http://www.vararam.com/reality_of_ram_air01.html

RG


[Modified by RG in Dallas, 10:07 AM 6/4/2003]

 

Yep! Yep! Yep! Lots of noise with the aftermarkets! :iagree:

 

http://www.corvettec5.com/store/?page=shop/tricpics

http://www.CorvetteC5.com

Stage 2 to be released in 10 days. Those with Stage 1 get $50.00 off Stage 2.

 

Neither one. Just stay stock.

 

One flaw with your theory there....a little thing known as vacuum.

Take a shop vac (with it off), and try scooping up water with the hose...it doesn't work too well. No, you won't "propel" the water into the canister. Now turn it on, see the difference it makes. Your car is the same....you don't need to force the water up, the engine does it for you.

Bottom line is, once you completely submerge the opening on ANY intake system, you're done. You don't have time to react, the engine will simply stop, the damage is done.

:cheers:


[Modified by Y2Kvert4me, 6:17 AM 6/9/2003]