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Old Dec 13, 2003 | 09:49 PM
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I have heard of SEA Sickness but what about ZEE Sickness?

Has anyone here made their passenger sick to their stomach?

I took my friend out for a drive and after demonstrating the enormous power and torque of the Z06 he literary became sick to his stomach. He cautioned he felt like he might throw up. I then drove him like Miss Daisy! He recovered thank goodness!

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Old Dec 13, 2003 | 10:28 PM
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Old Dec 13, 2003 | 10:49 PM
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YES :rofl: I took many people for rides at the Nurburgring and made quite a few "sea" sick :U :lolg:
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Old Dec 14, 2003 | 06:38 AM
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Yeah, I really thought my buddy was gonna toss his cookies. I thought he was joking at first but it became clear he wasn't!

I'll tell you I just came out of a SVT Cobra and although I think the SVT is a great automobile, I have never come close to making anyone sick. I think it is the torque that will get to the person's stomach. I am sure that since I am the one driving and in control the torque doesn't bother me. I do wonder what it would be like to be the passenger. I am sure it feels different than driving.

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Old Dec 14, 2003 | 08:17 AM
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you Z guys should have passenger side barf bags as standard equipment :lolg:
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Old Dec 14, 2003 | 08:29 AM
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LOL!!!!!

A driver's side bag wouldn't be such a bad idea in addition to the passenger's!

I get a little nervous myself!

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Old Dec 14, 2003 | 03:38 PM
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I took my dad for a drive once and was having a ball till my dad said to cool it. Turns out he started having a heart tremor from all the excitement!

He was cool though - no problem.
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Old Dec 14, 2003 | 03:42 PM
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It is just interesting how you can make someone physically sick in the Z06. I wonder if the same can be said in other cars such as a 911 Turbo.

Now of course you can make someone sick in a Yugo Sport if you continue to do three sixties for twenty minutes straight. I am talking about hard core street driving with quick spurts of acceleration. The Z06 definitely can be a ride to remember!
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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 12:20 PM
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The position of the seat has a lot to do with it, my wife was getting motion sick in the Z, I put the seat in an upright position rather then silightly reclined like she set it. After that and moving the seat slightly forward her motion sickness went away. This allowed her to complain louder about, to fast, to close, do not squeal the tires and stop changing lanes so fast. Now I get sick instead of her.
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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 12:36 PM
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I can even start feeling dizzy when taking circular exit ramps at high speeds. I am very impressed with the cars handling capabilites, although i have also discovered its limits once or twice.

As far as the torque though my Automatic Supercharged GTP would shock you more, torque is very linear and smooth in the ZO6. Although the torque is cool when exiting a turn in 2nd or 3rd
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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 01:49 PM
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People experience many forces in a Z06. It's like riding a roller coaster!

:U

"Why do I feel heavy at the bottom of hills?" :bb
"Why am I raised off the seat sometimes?" :(
"What throws me to the side of the car on some parts of the ride?" :banghead:

G Forces are usually associated with roller coasters and Z06s. :steering: There are three types of G-forces (G's). :D

1. Positive G's

Passengers will sometimes feel very heavy in their seats. :cuss This is caused be positive G's. Positive G's occur at the bottom of most hills, and depend on how fast the car levels off. One G is the pull of normal gravity. Currently, we are all at one G. But if we're in a Z06, we can experience up to 3-4 G's. When the car levels off, passengers are still moving down. This is when positive G's escalate. For example, let's say that there is a passenger that ways 180 pounds. That is his weight at one G. At two G's the boy will feel like he ways 360 pounds. At three G's he will feel like he ways 540 pounds. This continues as the G's increase. Most roller coasters pull about 4 G's. Some coaster pull five G's or even six. A car on a long steep downhill (not recommended! :withstupid: ) can pull 2,3, even 4. Once a person is at five G's, he/she is likely to black out. At nine G's a person could die. Nothing pulls more than five G's except for fighter jets. Pilots :flag can pull up to nine G's only because they have a G suit which will keep the blood flowing throughout their bodies.

2. Negative G's

Negative G forces are the opposite of positive G's. These occur when cresting a hill. Anything below one G is considered a negative G. At zero G's it is weightlessness. This occurs because on the uphill, you are still going up, while the car is trying to go down. :boxing
This creates the common 'butt out of seat' thing. Roller coaster enthusiests call it air time. Essentially, negative G's are a resistence of a force of gravity, since your moving upwards, not down. Negative G's don't end at zero G's. They continue going up with -1, -2 and upwards. As the numbers get lower, (i.e. larger number with a negative in front of it) the more force is acting upon you. In theory, you are getting sucked out of the seat. You are kept in, though, by the seat belts and the force of gravity which is usually strong enough to hold you in the car without the restraints. In my opinion, negative G forces are the best because of the air time. :rolleyes:

3. Lateral G's

A lateral G is the force that pushes the passengers to the side. Lateral G's occur when the car is in a corner. :hurray: Your body is going straight, but the car is turning. Banking the turn (tilting it like at super-speedways) helps reduce some lateral Gs. Smacking the rider against the door (hard left turn) will reduce the lateral G's. :banghead:

The Z06 can pull almost 1G on the skidpad. :steering: That is before the wheels get loose. After that it can get higher. :auto:



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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 07:24 PM
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Zen06:

Thanks for the lesson on G's!!!!!!

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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 08:21 PM
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you Z guys should have passenger side barf bags as standard equipment :lolg:
Your killing me! :lol:
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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 11:34 PM
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I know I probably need to lighten up, but I have to take a chance to correct your views of the LAWS OF PHYSICS, I wouldn't want people to be misguided,
im really not trying to flame

"Positive G's occur at the bottom of most hills, and depend on how fast the car levels off. One G is the pull of normal gravity. Currently, we are all at one G. But if we're in a Z06, we can experience up to 3-4 G's. When the car levels off, passengers are still moving down. This is when positive G's escalate. For example, let's say that there is a passenger that ways 180 pounds. That is his weight at one G. At two G's the boy will feel like he ways 360 pounds. At three G's he will feel like he ways 540 pounds."

no the car does not level off and break free of the force while you still experience it, the Z06 feels the same forces you do, at 3 g's the Z06
is pressing 9000 pounds on the ground thats why the suspension compresses. thats why its made of metal, and humans cant way 3000 pounds with a calcium skeletal stucture

" Pilots :flag can pull up to nine G's only because they have a G suit which will keep the blood flowing throughout their bodies."

incorrect, G-suits restrict bloodflow to keep blood from rushing out of your head = blackout, or too much blood to your head=redout.

"Banking the turn (tilting it like at super-speedways) helps reduce some lateral Gs."

No banking the turns increases centripetal friction, because when you change dircetion you are accelerating, so you are accelerating into something that can in turn put more equal force back on your tires allowing you to turn a higher g-force or acceleration output.

Essentially, negative G's are a resistence of a force of gravity,

true up until the point you go past -1 G you are no longer resisting gravity, you have overpowered it at -1G where you should feel weightless at 0G's. Gravity is weak in comparison to the fact that humans can take -10G's or so.

"This occurs because on the uphill, you are still going up, while the car is trying to go down. :boxing"

no this occurs because you and the car are experiencing negative g-forces the same.You are essentially a part of the car while strapped into it. The car experiences negative g's then positive becuase of gravity just like you do. However your negative acceleration rates will vary because of difference in weight, the resultant positive acceleration due to gravity will be equal.

"Your body is going straight, but the car is turning."

close, all objects want to travel in a straight line path, change in direction results in acceleration force. this is called true centrifugal force. the car is experiencing centripetal force, held by friction.

I intend this only for knowledge on the subject, I am right as far as I know and im sure I could of made a mistake. Just wanted to explain acceleration as I have been taught



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Old Dec 16, 2003 | 08:45 AM
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My wife always gets natious in my Z. I think its funny as hell! :lolg:
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Old Dec 16, 2003 | 09:35 AM
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I had a chance to run my "regular" C5 on a 1.26 mile NASCAR track (Gateway International Raceway) near St Louis with my club and the first time I went into a 11 degree banked turn 1 and came out of turn 2 I was dizzy. I had to slow until I collected my self. After a few laps I was fine.

I believe it's the G force(s) the brain isn't used too that causes this dis-orientation. I rode with a buddy after my time was up and I found it took a few laps to get my "sea legs" under me. After this I now have great respect for the NASCAR drivers.

The average person/car will never experience G-forces the Corvette can generate and aren't prepared nor trained to handle it.

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Old Dec 16, 2003 | 10:25 AM
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I had a friend accuse me of giving him whiplash
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Old Dec 16, 2003 | 07:35 PM
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Yeah-Someone gave me the whiplash cry also!
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Old Dec 16, 2003 | 07:48 PM
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Yea, late this fall I went over to a friends house on a Sunday morning. He hadn't seen the car yet. When he did he wanted to knwo all about it. Then he has the nerve to tell me that his dream is to get a Porsche someday. So I ask him if he wants to take a ride.

We cruise for awhile and then I find a secluded backroad and I go WOT through 3 gears. I then slow down. He turns to me with his mouth wide open and then says, "geezus, that was the fastest ride I have ever been in." I left him thinking twice about that Porsche. V8's rule!
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Geneus:

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