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Old Jul 7, 2004 | 05:35 PM
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O.K. I've read lots of threads and lowered my Z06 all the way down on the stock bolts, but I would like to go about 1/2 inch lower.

Has anyone lower below stock and regretted it? I am concerned about clearance. I have no problems at the bottom of the stock bolts. If I cut 1/2 inch out of the front bushings and replace the rear bolts am I going to be scrapping frame rails and headers?

If you gone lower than stock and regretted it, save me your pain! Of course, every shot of ALLKAR's car, makes me want to slam it to the weeds!

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I am scraping my oil filter and would like to go lower. My car gets almmost the attention of my buddies viper because its so low you've never seen another corvette like it. Its a pain to drive sometime but I wouldnt give it up for anything.
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Old Jul 7, 2004 | 06:43 PM
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Here is 2/3 cut front bushing and longer bolts out back.

I drive this car with NO Problems. Even drove over the speed bumps @ NCM.
Go for it !! You can always raise it back up.
I would suggest getting different shocks (Like Bilsteins) if you go lower.

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ALLKAR - Compared to your yellow car, that must be your four wheeler! Just kidding it looks awesome.

I wasn't going to cut that much off the front bushing, but maybe I should.

How long of a bolt did you use in the rear of the SW car and how much thread was left showing (might make my set-up go quicker!).

We (and a group of all Yellow vettes) are going NCM on the 30th - I'm gonna hold ya to it!

I am leaning heavily toward cutting those bushings on Sunday!

Can I just use a longer bolt on the rear? i.e. 1/2 x 6 1/2 Grade 8 as I've read in other threads and re-use bushings, washer? OR should I cut the rear bushings the same as front to maintain the stance?


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Old Jul 7, 2004 | 09:04 PM
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Mine's lowered w/ the stock bolts and it's good for me, for now. It still gets in and out of my driveway, in most strip malls, and over the speed bumps. I've got the rocker rails and those have only hit once when I went over a speed bump too fast.

I'm looking ot buy a house and it'll have a better driveway (I'll make sure of it) then I'll lower her a bit more like ALLKAR's wife's Z (the white one)

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I went lower than stock on the rear and lost too much travel, she didn't handle well at the track and sometimes on the street. I put the stock bolts back in and lowered them to the max.
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Old Jul 7, 2004 | 10:32 PM
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We (and a group of all Yellow vettes) are going NCM on the 30th - I'm gonna hold ya to it!
Might have to take you up on that!!

Great looking rides you have!!!!!!!!!!!!


Oh Yeah..... NEVER Too LOW!!!!!!!!!!


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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 01:03 AM
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O.K. I've read lots of threads and lowered my Z06 all the way down on the stock bolts, but I would like to go about 1/2 inch lower.

Has anyone lower below stock and regretted it? I am concerned about clearance. I have no problems at the bottom of the stock bolts. If I cut 1/2 inch out of the front bushings and replace the rear bolts am I going to be scrapping frame rails and headers?

If you gone lower than stock and regretted it, save me your pain! Of course, every shot of ALLKAR's car, makes me want to slam it to the weeds!

Do it...

Mine has longer rear bolts and the front bushings have been removed. I love
the way it looks and feels. One of these days I'll take some pictures...
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Originally Posted by 04msmZ06
Do it...

Mine has longer rear bolts and the front bushings have been removed. I love
the way it looks and feels. One of these days I'll take some pictures...
Same here. I scrape the air dam quite often but that's OK. Frame Savers and Rocker Rails are a MUST. It's all worth it... I'd go lower if I could afford coilovers. And I DID take some pix - see my sig.

Hey vettethret, you gotta shrink your sig pix so they show up now... your ride is simply out-fn-rageous!!!

Keep
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It went lower! Cut 2/3's of the front bushings and put in 6 1/2" bolts in the rear with 3/4" of thread showing. 26 7/16 to the wheel wheel on the front and 27 1/4 on the rears with only about 5 miles of driving.

We'll see how I like it after a 12 hour trip to NCM and the plant, but so far so good.

Lowering is like horsepower, its never enough!


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MUCH BETTER !!!!!

I IMed you the night before the Forum change over, don't know if you got it ???
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I was in Racer44's when we used the rocker rails. His was real low but I was actually surprised how easy it got hung up. There's probably a pretty fine line on having no problems to being a pain in the ars. They look sweeet though. ALLKAR would be cooler if he had a s/c.
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Originally Posted by 1hotZ06
Same here. I scrape the air dam quite often but that's OK. Frame Savers and Rocker Rails are a MUST. It's all worth it... I'd go lower if I could afford coilovers. And I DID take some pix - see my sig.

Hey vettethret, you gotta shrink your sig pix so they show up now... your ride is simply out-fn-rageous!!!

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Thanks bro. Do you know how to shrink it? I've tried but cant figure it out.
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I removed my front bolts all together and shaved 1/3 off the rear bushings and cranked it down as far as I could I would like to go lower but just can't justify coilovers just to go lower . I scrape the plastic air dam in the front but no biggie. I say put that bad boy in the weeds
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Old Jul 12, 2004 | 01:26 PM
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It would seem to me that lowering a car that is meant to be a factory race car (the Z06) at all would cause the handling aspects to change for the worst. Is this true? I would want to lower mine one day but not if it even sacrifices the tiniest shred of performance and handling.
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Old Jul 12, 2004 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike04Z06
It would seem to me that lowering a car that is meant to be a factory race car (the Z06) at all would cause the handling aspects to change for the worst. Is this true? I would want to lower mine one day but not if it even sacrifices the tiniest shred of performance and handling.
Though the Z is essentially a streetable racecar, GM must design it to be utilized under various types of driving conditions and a relatively high ride height is required. Most race cars are in the weeds and do not have four inches of clearance for the tires!

Having lowered mine (twice), I would highly recommend you twist down the stock bolts all the way (take you an hour tops!), get her aligned and answer the questions for your driving style. If you cut the front bushings and get longer rear bolts, you can always go back up. I did not notice any degradation in ride quality.

I'll bet ALLKAR's money you won't raise it back up!

I've put a few more miles on the car since my previous post, which included a bit of high speed flogging on a certain curvy area without traffic. With the car lower (and a slightly lower center of gravity), it turns in much quicker than the stock height. In turn, that also will make the car slightly more tail happy, partially because you are entering the corner slightly faster (Competitive Driving Mode is your friend). My guess is, it would take a professional race drive to tell if there is really any difference. But, damn, it looks better!

By the way, ALLKAR, no IM! But, your cars were the deciding factor!
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Originally Posted by Matt69-ZO6
By the way, ALLKAR, no IM! But, your cars were the deciding factor!
Sorry you didn't get the IM, it must of got lost in the Forum switch.
You did good!!!
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So how does one tighten down the stock bolts? Where are the bolts? What does tightening the bolts down actually do? Does it compress the springs or something? I'm interested to learn more about this
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Originally Posted by Mike04Z06
So how does one tighten down the stock bolts? Where are the bolts? What does tightening the bolts down actually do? Does it compress the springs or something? I'm interested to learn more about this

Try this link for instructions
https://www.corvetteforum.com/techti...D=27&TopicID=1
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Here is another good link with pics...

https://www.corvetteforum.com/techti...D=90&TopicID=1

Make sure you have a 21 mm wrench, 10 mm socket and a 7 mm Allen Key (some appear to be Torx bits?).

The pics are very good and the process is straightforward.

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