Notices
C5 General General C5 Corvette and C5 Z06 Discussion not covered in Tech

[Z06] Active Handling/Traction Control ?????

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 27, 2004 | 10:25 AM
  #1  
Weedo's Avatar
Weedo
Thread Starter
Drifting
10 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,343
Likes: 0
From: Charlotte NC
Default Active Handling/Traction Control ?????

I've heard that you should leave this ON even when drag racing. However, it seems at every shift, mine would want to hesitate to allow the car to gain traction (once shifted I should say). This was my first time at the track in this car and when I switched it off, it launched MUCH better and pulled immediately after each shift.

Can anyone explain why to leave it ON if this is the case? It cost me about .5 on the 2 runs I did with it on, and we all know THAT'S HUGE!

Maybe I'm missing something??
Reply
Old Jul 27, 2004 | 10:30 AM
  #2  
xsiveone's Avatar
xsiveone
Le Mans Master
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 6,661
Likes: 1
Default

Run it in comp mode. This leaves active handling on, but disables traction control. You don't want traction control on because the car will just hesitate, as you noticed, whenever wheel spin is detected.

Comp mode is nice because it won't affect anything unless you are about to lose it and then the active handling will step in and hopefully save you.

X
Reply
Old Jul 27, 2004 | 11:57 AM
  #3  
lager99's Avatar
lager99
Team Owner
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 34,299
Likes: 1
From: [Enter Unoffensive Comment Here]
Cruise-In VI Veteran
Cruise-In VII Veteran
St. Jude Donor '06
Default

You want "comp" mode. Hold down the t/c button for 8 or 9 seconds. It keeps your active handling on but removes the traction control.
Reply
Old Jul 27, 2004 | 01:17 PM
  #4  
Gonzo's Avatar
Gonzo
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 7,096
Likes: 153
From: "Atlanta" Ga.
Default

Reply
Old Jul 27, 2004 | 02:35 PM
  #5  
dbirdz06's Avatar
dbirdz06
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 5,683
Likes: 1
From: Houston Texas
Default

I think it would be nice if they designed the button to engage competetive mode by pressing it once, and turn it off by holding down for 8 or 9 seconds. Anyone know if this could be done with a simple wire swapping? Maybe it's just me, but every once in a while there's a time when I want the competetive mode asap instead of sitting there with my finger on a button...
Reply
Old Jul 27, 2004 | 03:21 PM
  #6  
xsiveone's Avatar
xsiveone
Le Mans Master
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 6,661
Likes: 1
Default

I think it would be nice if they designed the button to engage competetive mode by pressing it once, and turn it off by holding down for 8 or 9 seconds. Anyone know if this could be done with a simple wire swapping? Maybe it's just me, but every once in a while there's a time when I want the competetive mode asap instead of sitting there with my finger on a button...
The engineers did it backwards IMO. You should just be able to hit the button and have it go into Comp Mode and then have to hold the button for 5 or 6 seconds to shut everything off. I don't know what they were thinking.

I haven't heard of anyone switching this around. I would think that it would be more of a software thing than a mechanical thing anyway. It's too bad that we can't go in and change it through an LS1edit.

You can buy a controller that wires into the system. It's made by a company called Laptrax. This device enables you to set which mode you want the car to start in, so you don't have to keep hitting the button. I'm thinking about getting one because I drive in Comp mode about 90% of the time and I'm tired of holding the button down every time I go to start the car.

Here's more info on the Laptrax controller. Someone posted information on it. I'm sure you can find more information on a forum search for "laptrax".

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...hlight=laptrax

BTW.. FYI.. In case you don't know, once you go into Comp Mode, if you hit the reset button on the DIC, it will clear the Comp Mode from the display so you can read your gauges again.

X

Last edited by xsiveone; Jul 27, 2004 at 03:30 PM.
Reply
Old Jul 27, 2004 | 04:15 PM
  #7  
Weedo's Avatar
Weedo
Thread Starter
Drifting
10 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,343
Likes: 0
From: Charlotte NC
Default

Thansk everyone, great info!

As long as I've been around this place, you'd think I would know how to change it by now. Then again, I'm only recently in a Z06!!!
Reply
Old Jul 27, 2004 | 04:42 PM
  #8  
dbirdz06's Avatar
dbirdz06
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 5,683
Likes: 1
From: Houston Texas
Default

Originally Posted by xsiveone
The engineers did it backwards IMO. You should just be able to hit the button and have it go into Comp Mode and then have to hold the button for 5 or 6 seconds to shut everything off. I don't know what they were thinking.

I haven't heard of anyone switching this around. I would think that it would be more of a software thing than a mechanical thing anyway. It's too bad that we can't go in and change it through an LS1edit.

You can buy a controller that wires into the system. It's made by a company called Laptrax. This device enables you to set which mode you want the car to start in, so you don't have to keep hitting the button. I'm thinking about getting one because I drive in Comp mode about 90% of the time and I'm tired of holding the button down every time I go to start the car.

Here's more info on the Laptrax controller. Someone posted information on it. I'm sure you can find more information on a forum search for "laptrax".

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...hlight=laptrax

BTW.. FYI.. In case you don't know, once you go into Comp Mode, if you hit the reset button on the DIC, it will clear the Comp Mode from the display so you can read your gauges again.

X
Yeah, they did it backwards. I'm sure they had their reasons though. I'll check out the Laptrax, thanks for the tip.
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

5 Best & 5 Most Overrated Corvette Track Packages of All Time!

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

Every 2027 Corvette Engine Explained

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

Designer Imagines A Corvette That Looks More Like a Corvette Than the Corvette

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

 Brett Foote
story-5

10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-7

10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
Old Jul 27, 2004 | 06:34 PM
  #9  
xsiveone's Avatar
xsiveone
Le Mans Master
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 6,661
Likes: 1
Default

Yeah, they did it backwards. I'm sure they had their reasons though. I'll check out the Laptrax, thanks for the tip.
If they did have a reason for it, I sure would like to know. Anyone have any ideas?

You're welcome on the Laptrax info.

X
Reply
Old Jul 27, 2004 | 06:48 PM
  #10  
TeamSpeed's Avatar
TeamSpeed
Pro
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 550
Likes: 0
From: Northeast IN
Default

I made up a timing circuit to push the button for me, and I added a button on the same plastic console piece to trigger this circuit.



I was going to make these for the general public too, but the price was going to be about $30, and I didn't think people wanted to pay that much for a button that would hold down your traction control for 5 seconds for you...
Reply
Old Jul 27, 2004 | 07:09 PM
  #11  
xsiveone's Avatar
xsiveone
Le Mans Master
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 6,661
Likes: 1
Default

TeamSpeed: Looks very good, but I have a question for you. If it holds the button down for you for 5-6 seconds to put you in Comp Mode, how do you shut everything off then? How would it know to shut off AH/TC?

X
Reply
Old Jul 28, 2004 | 12:24 AM
  #12  
TeamSpeed's Avatar
TeamSpeed
Pro
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 550
Likes: 0
From: Northeast IN
Default

I have a separate button that goes to the circuit and the circuit has a relay that goes to the back of the wiring harness of the current AH/TC button. When I hit my new button, it fires off the relay for 5-6 seconds, which "holds" the factory button down for me. It has no impact on the behavior of the factory button.

I only dabble a bit in electronics, as you might see from my posts like the quick connect power cord for Escorts and V1. I hunted down a timing circuit online and figured out how I could build it and use it for this enhancement to the vette. Yet another hobby I don't have time for...

Last edited by TeamSpeed; Jul 28, 2004 at 12:29 AM.
Reply
Old Jul 28, 2004 | 10:35 AM
  #13  
xsiveone's Avatar
xsiveone
Le Mans Master
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 6,661
Likes: 1
Default

TeamSpeed: Do you have a photo of the finished product showing the extra button? What I mean is a photo of what it looks like installed in the car with the extra button.

X
Reply
Old Jul 28, 2004 | 11:11 AM
  #14  
chiefDave's Avatar
chiefDave
Melting Slicks
Supporting Lifetime
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 2,911
Likes: 1
From: Augusta GA
St. Jude Donor '05-'06
Default I agree

Originally Posted by lager99
You want "comp" mode. Hold down the t/c button for 8 or 9 seconds. It keeps your active handling on but removes the traction control.
I have never run with TC / AC on but I have seen an auto with it and it added like 4 or 5ths on a coupe with 360ish RWHP. Good luck!
Dave
Reply
Old Jul 28, 2004 | 06:22 PM
  #15  
7Bob3's Avatar
7Bob3
Burning Brakes
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 1999
Posts: 845
Likes: 0
From: Ventura Harbor CA California
Default

For drag racing it does present a problem. For autocross and track it works just as it was designed. Leave the line forgetting to turn it off, enter a high speed corner planning to let the car drift to the outside, hear the bell as the car chops power and starts to straighten out on it's own, you will be very happy a swipe at that great big button turns everything off!
Reply
Old Jul 28, 2004 | 06:29 PM
  #16  
TeamSpeed's Avatar
TeamSpeed
Pro
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 550
Likes: 0
From: Northeast IN
Default

I will try to get a pic. I drilled a hole in the part of the console where it starts to indent down into the center console. There is just a small round pushbutton on that angled section. The rest of the electronics sits under the console, hidden away.
Reply
Old Jul 28, 2004 | 06:37 PM
  #17  
xsiveone's Avatar
xsiveone
Le Mans Master
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 6,661
Likes: 1
Default

For drag racing it does present a problem. For autocross and track it works just as it was designed. Leave the line forgetting to turn it off, enter a high speed corner planning to let the car drift to the outside, hear the bell as the car chops power and starts to straighten out on it's own, you will be very happy a swipe at that great big button turns everything off!
IMO, the Comp Mode is substantial enough on the track (road course). If you get out of shape, the car corrects it with the active handling. Having the traction control cut power if it detects wheel spin is just plain annoying to me.

The only time that I leave everything on is when I'm in the wet or if it's really cold outside and I don't get any grip when the tires are rock hard.

X
Reply
Old Jul 31, 2004 | 08:00 AM
  #18  
ZO6Les's Avatar
ZO6Les
Drifting
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 1,684
Likes: 0
From: Jacksonville Florida
Default

I leave mine in Competitive Mode for drag racing (though I don't do that much these days), and for Auto-X I turn all systems off - I don't want the car pulling power as I exit a turn - and on Road Racing it depends on the track, but usually competitive mode until the tires are warm and I am comfortable, then all off again.

BTW, on the road I leave all systems on, but then again I don't street race.

Les



Originally Posted by Bob Blackmon
For drag racing it does present a problem. For autocross and track it works just as it was designed. Leave the line forgetting to turn it off, enter a high speed corner planning to let the car drift to the outside, hear the bell as the car chops power and starts to straighten out on it's own, you will be very happy a swipe at that great big button turns everything off!
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2004 | 07:12 AM
  #19  
IMXCITD's Avatar
IMXCITD
Race Director
Supporting Lifetime Gold
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 14,999
Likes: 312
From: P-town Baby! Virginia
Default

Teamspeed,

Please post some pics and would also like more info on the quick connect for the V1
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To Active Handling/Traction Control ?????





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:05 PM.

story-0
5 Best & 5 Most Overrated Corvette Track Packages of All Time!

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 most overrated Corvette track packages ever.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 12:46:45


VIEW MORE
story-1
Every 2027 Corvette Engine Explained

Slideshow: Every 2027 Corvette engine explained

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 12:16:31


VIEW MORE
story-2
Designer Imagines A Corvette That Looks More Like a Corvette Than the Corvette

Slideshow: A Jaguar designer's personal project imagines what a modern front-engined Corvette might look like if Chevrolet revisited the golden age of the Stingray.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-08 19:53:43


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Corvettes that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 10:34:17


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

A lot of money has changed hands at the online auction house over the years.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-03 10:21:50


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: 10 great gifts Corvette enthusiasts actually want for Father's Day!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:40


VIEW MORE
story-6
8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

Slideshow: These are the quirks, annoyances, and oddly lovable problems that every Corvette owner eventually learns to live with.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 09:31:39


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

Slideshow: 10 reasons why the C6 Z06 is still a performance benchmark after 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 17:20:09


VIEW MORE
story-8
How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

Slideshow: How much horsepower every Corvette engine lost in 1972.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:54:53


VIEW MORE
story-9
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE