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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 10:25 AM
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I've heard that you should leave this ON even when drag racing. However, it seems at every shift, mine would want to hesitate to allow the car to gain traction (once shifted I should say). This was my first time at the track in this car and when I switched it off, it launched MUCH better and pulled immediately after each shift.

Can anyone explain why to leave it ON if this is the case? It cost me about .5 on the 2 runs I did with it on, and we all know THAT'S HUGE!

Maybe I'm missing something??
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 10:30 AM
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Run it in comp mode. This leaves active handling on, but disables traction control. You don't want traction control on because the car will just hesitate, as you noticed, whenever wheel spin is detected.

Comp mode is nice because it won't affect anything unless you are about to lose it and then the active handling will step in and hopefully save you.

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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 11:57 AM
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You want "comp" mode. Hold down the t/c button for 8 or 9 seconds. It keeps your active handling on but removes the traction control.
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 01:17 PM
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I think it would be nice if they designed the button to engage competetive mode by pressing it once, and turn it off by holding down for 8 or 9 seconds. Anyone know if this could be done with a simple wire swapping? Maybe it's just me, but every once in a while there's a time when I want the competetive mode asap instead of sitting there with my finger on a button...
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 03:21 PM
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I think it would be nice if they designed the button to engage competetive mode by pressing it once, and turn it off by holding down for 8 or 9 seconds. Anyone know if this could be done with a simple wire swapping? Maybe it's just me, but every once in a while there's a time when I want the competetive mode asap instead of sitting there with my finger on a button...
The engineers did it backwards IMO. You should just be able to hit the button and have it go into Comp Mode and then have to hold the button for 5 or 6 seconds to shut everything off. I don't know what they were thinking.

I haven't heard of anyone switching this around. I would think that it would be more of a software thing than a mechanical thing anyway. It's too bad that we can't go in and change it through an LS1edit.

You can buy a controller that wires into the system. It's made by a company called Laptrax. This device enables you to set which mode you want the car to start in, so you don't have to keep hitting the button. I'm thinking about getting one because I drive in Comp mode about 90% of the time and I'm tired of holding the button down every time I go to start the car.

Here's more info on the Laptrax controller. Someone posted information on it. I'm sure you can find more information on a forum search for "laptrax".

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...hlight=laptrax

BTW.. FYI.. In case you don't know, once you go into Comp Mode, if you hit the reset button on the DIC, it will clear the Comp Mode from the display so you can read your gauges again.

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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 04:15 PM
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Thansk everyone, great info!

As long as I've been around this place, you'd think I would know how to change it by now. Then again, I'm only recently in a Z06!!!
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Originally Posted by xsiveone
The engineers did it backwards IMO. You should just be able to hit the button and have it go into Comp Mode and then have to hold the button for 5 or 6 seconds to shut everything off. I don't know what they were thinking.

I haven't heard of anyone switching this around. I would think that it would be more of a software thing than a mechanical thing anyway. It's too bad that we can't go in and change it through an LS1edit.

You can buy a controller that wires into the system. It's made by a company called Laptrax. This device enables you to set which mode you want the car to start in, so you don't have to keep hitting the button. I'm thinking about getting one because I drive in Comp mode about 90% of the time and I'm tired of holding the button down every time I go to start the car.

Here's more info on the Laptrax controller. Someone posted information on it. I'm sure you can find more information on a forum search for "laptrax".

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...hlight=laptrax

BTW.. FYI.. In case you don't know, once you go into Comp Mode, if you hit the reset button on the DIC, it will clear the Comp Mode from the display so you can read your gauges again.

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Yeah, they did it backwards. I'm sure they had their reasons though. I'll check out the Laptrax, thanks for the tip.
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 06:34 PM
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Yeah, they did it backwards. I'm sure they had their reasons though. I'll check out the Laptrax, thanks for the tip.
If they did have a reason for it, I sure would like to know. Anyone have any ideas?

You're welcome on the Laptrax info.

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I made up a timing circuit to push the button for me, and I added a button on the same plastic console piece to trigger this circuit.



I was going to make these for the general public too, but the price was going to be about $30, and I didn't think people wanted to pay that much for a button that would hold down your traction control for 5 seconds for you...
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TeamSpeed: Looks very good, but I have a question for you. If it holds the button down for you for 5-6 seconds to put you in Comp Mode, how do you shut everything off then? How would it know to shut off AH/TC?

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I have a separate button that goes to the circuit and the circuit has a relay that goes to the back of the wiring harness of the current AH/TC button. When I hit my new button, it fires off the relay for 5-6 seconds, which "holds" the factory button down for me. It has no impact on the behavior of the factory button.

I only dabble a bit in electronics, as you might see from my posts like the quick connect power cord for Escorts and V1. I hunted down a timing circuit online and figured out how I could build it and use it for this enhancement to the vette. Yet another hobby I don't have time for...

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Old Jul 28, 2004 | 10:35 AM
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TeamSpeed: Do you have a photo of the finished product showing the extra button? What I mean is a photo of what it looks like installed in the car with the extra button.

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You want "comp" mode. Hold down the t/c button for 8 or 9 seconds. It keeps your active handling on but removes the traction control.
I have never run with TC / AC on but I have seen an auto with it and it added like 4 or 5ths on a coupe with 360ish RWHP. Good luck!
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For drag racing it does present a problem. For autocross and track it works just as it was designed. Leave the line forgetting to turn it off, enter a high speed corner planning to let the car drift to the outside, hear the bell as the car chops power and starts to straighten out on it's own, you will be very happy a swipe at that great big button turns everything off!
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Old Jul 28, 2004 | 06:29 PM
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I will try to get a pic. I drilled a hole in the part of the console where it starts to indent down into the center console. There is just a small round pushbutton on that angled section. The rest of the electronics sits under the console, hidden away.
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Old Jul 28, 2004 | 06:37 PM
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For drag racing it does present a problem. For autocross and track it works just as it was designed. Leave the line forgetting to turn it off, enter a high speed corner planning to let the car drift to the outside, hear the bell as the car chops power and starts to straighten out on it's own, you will be very happy a swipe at that great big button turns everything off!
IMO, the Comp Mode is substantial enough on the track (road course). If you get out of shape, the car corrects it with the active handling. Having the traction control cut power if it detects wheel spin is just plain annoying to me.

The only time that I leave everything on is when I'm in the wet or if it's really cold outside and I don't get any grip when the tires are rock hard.

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I leave mine in Competitive Mode for drag racing (though I don't do that much these days), and for Auto-X I turn all systems off - I don't want the car pulling power as I exit a turn - and on Road Racing it depends on the track, but usually competitive mode until the tires are warm and I am comfortable, then all off again.

BTW, on the road I leave all systems on, but then again I don't street race.

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For drag racing it does present a problem. For autocross and track it works just as it was designed. Leave the line forgetting to turn it off, enter a high speed corner planning to let the car drift to the outside, hear the bell as the car chops power and starts to straighten out on it's own, you will be very happy a swipe at that great big button turns everything off!
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Teamspeed,

Please post some pics and would also like more info on the quick connect for the V1
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