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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 07:46 AM
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I lowered my car a few weeks ago and had it re-aligned. I would like to go a little lower in the front. I realize I will have to cut the bushings to do this. Will I have a notably harsher ride by doing this? If I lower just the front a bit more, do you think the car should be re-aligned again? I think I know the answers to these questions(yes and yes), just want to get some more opinions.
Oh...and at what point would I need to start worrying about suspension travel?

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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 07:59 AM
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My understanding is yes, you will notice a harsher ride. You might also have to consider getting the Baer Bump Steer kit for proper alignment.

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Yes you will need to align it again.
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 09:18 AM
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Maybe I won't lower it anymore then. I guess if it ain't broke...don't fix it!

Thamks for the info.


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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 09:23 AM
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Is it possible to get real long bolts then only lower part way to still have some suspension travel. I think that would solve any harsh ride problems. Realignment...yes
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Rattler71
I lowered my car a few weeks ago and had it re-aligned. I would like to go a little lower in the front. I realize I will have to cut the bushings to do this. Will I have a notable harsher ride by doing this? If I lower just the front a bit more, do you think the car should be re-aligned again? I think I know the answers to these questions(yes and yes), just want to get some more opinions.
Oh...and at what point would I need to start worrying about suspension travel?

Scott
I dropped mine how you did yours the first time I lowered it and never had it aligned. About a month ago me and my bro cut 2/3rds the bushings off. I think next time Im going to take the bolts all the way out. However for that I think new shocks are in order. I did have the rear pancaked for a few weeks it was lower then the front.

I got back to my bro's house and fixed this but there was no shock travel in the rear. Barely any and the ride sucked! I fixed it and gave it a very small rake and the ride is fine. I really love it. However to go any lower then where I am Im thinkin new lower shocks are in order.

Also there was some info about turning a shock mount upside down or something like that to give you close to an inch more travel. I need to look into this as well...

About the alignment. I'm not to sure. I still havent had mine aligned and have put some miles on it and it seems ok. Just going to leave it like that I think.

EDIT: Ill go add a new picture of my car to my yahoo photos page. Its the last pic with the chrome wheels. Ill add it in just a second.

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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by doo600
Is it possible to get real long bolts then only lower part way to still have some suspension travel. I think that would solve any harsh ride problems. Realignment...yes
The bolt just limits how low it will go. The shock determins the suspension travel... You can only smash that shock down so low before there is no travel... Thats been my problem.
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 09:55 AM
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My understanding is yes, you will notice a harsher ride. You might also have to consider getting the Baer Bump Steer kit for proper alignment.


Isn't this kit for the rear?


To lower it further, Hardbar has a kit with SS bolts and Delrin bushings. For the rear they use Ti bolts.
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 10:12 AM
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Lowered mine from the factory and have not aligned it yet seems to be doing ok. I think that I am going to go alittle lower. Lowered my brother in laws ZO6, cut the bushings and put Grade 8 bolts ( 6 1/2 ) inches long in the back and went down another 1/2 inch. He seems to be doing fine. He did have it aligned mainly it was because his was off when he got the car. and thecar sat about 1/4 of and inch higher on one side to the other from the factory. He has not complained about the ride yet. Although I will ask him when he gets home. He and some of my other Corvette friends went to Bowling Green today I will ask how the ride was after riding for 6 hours in the car.
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Hey Rattler my Vette is lowered all the way on stock bolts and just wanted it a little lower up front so I cut 1/3 off the bushing the other day and I can't tell the difference.Rides just like before.

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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 06:53 PM
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Maybe I will try it, if it rides bad I will just put the bushing back in again.

Thx Gary


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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Rattler71
Maybe I will try it, if it rides bad I will just put the bushing back in again.
I cut all of the front bushings off and my car still rides nice.

Once you cut the bushing off, you really can't reattach it...but if it becomes too low or rides too harsh for your liking, you can just adjust the bolt back up a little to compensate for the missing bushing material.

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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 07:18 PM
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Oh ok..I thought I had read somewhere you could put the bushing back in. Thanks for the info!

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This is my opinion only.... we cut the bushing in the front and rear and noticed a big difference in the ride.... it doesnt effect alot of people when they lower it.... but I considered the ride very uncomfortable... if I had to do it over again I wouldnt of lowered it any further than the stock bolts....
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 07:28 PM
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Oh man Oh man...my head hurts....what to do...what to do? lower more or not lower more?


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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by leaftye
Isn't this kit for the rear?


To lower it further, Hardbar has a kit with SS bolts and Delrin bushings. For the rear they use Ti bolts.

No. The Bump Steer kit is installed on the front suspension. The lowering kits (longer bolts) are for the rear of the car. Using Ti bolts isn't necessary.

I only lowered mine 1", but added Hotchkis F/R sway bars and Bilstein sport shocks as I occasionally take mine on a track or road course and didn't want my car any lower than that.
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 10:27 PM
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Yes an alignment is suggested whenever the geometry of the suspension is changed. Cutting the bushings I have never done but am also considering it. I am sure it would make the ride a little more harsh but what many have done to combat that is install a set of Bilstien Sports shocks.

If I lower mine any lower than it is (and I am in the same position you are in right now) I'd also add Bilstien Sports to my car.

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By the way, the car looks nice in the sig pic as is.
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Thanks Glen. By the way, you have the same name as my brother. Glenn M. and his race car number is 27.


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I think what I will do is order new bushings from the dealer. I will try cutting mine to see how it looks and rides. If it is to rough or I start getting bottoming issues I will just replace with the new bushings.

Would that work?

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Originally Posted by Rattler71
I think what I will do is order new bushings from the dealer. I will try cutting mine to see how it looks and rides. If it is to rough or I start getting bottoming issues I will just replace with the new bushings.

Would that work?

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The bushings are one piece (permanently attached) to the adjusting bolts. You can't even buy just the adjusting bolts seperately, much less the bushing...and believe it or not, the only way you can get new front adjusting bolts from a dealer is to buy an entire new spring.

To give you a better idea...This is the adjusting bolt with full bushing:


This is the process of cutting the bushing off the bolt:


And this is the bolt after bushing has been cut off:


As stated above, even if you cut the bushing off, you can still adjust the bolts to raise the car back up if you need to.
Also, as someone else stated above, Hardbar is now making front adjusting bolts with delrin bushings, you may want to look into those if the thought of permanently modifying things scares you.

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