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Old Aug 3, 2004 | 11:26 AM
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Just did the first of the next round of lock recalls, part of the new recall is reprogramming the PCM, if you have a custom/ls1edit program you might lose it and get just the latest Chevy program. We are going to check into further...
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Old Aug 3, 2004 | 11:37 AM
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Love the c5rs.. All 97-2004 manual trans cars will be reprogrammed as part of the recall,the car I just finished also had other program changes "piggybacked" with the recall program IE: spark knock corrections.
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I'm sure some people who have the custom programming may not have thought about this. Thanks for the post.
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I have custom programming. Why not buy the column lock bypass and skip the recall if you have custom programming? The bypass is cheap and easy to install....or did I miss something? I don't mind being confused...

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Old Aug 3, 2004 | 07:16 PM
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I would just put in the lock by-pass and be done with the whole P.O.S, but the way recalls work until the paper work is "closed" you will keep getting notices in the mail and anytime you or the next owner goes to the dealer it will pop-up, I still see recalls for the late 80s come in..
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Originally Posted by kp@hp
but the way recalls work until the paper work is "closed" you will keep getting notices in the mail and anytime you or the next owner goes to the dealer it will pop-up, I still see recalls for the late 80s come in..
Simple enough, check the notice, if it's not something other than this, chunk it with the other junk mail. If you sell the vehicle, tell the new owner of the situation and be done with it. You obviously can't have the dealer replacing the custom software.....that would be even worse.

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Old Aug 3, 2004 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by kp@hp
I would just put in the lock by-pass and be done with the whole P.O.S, but the way recalls work until the paper work is "closed" you will keep getting notices in the mail and anytime you or the next owner goes to the dealer it will pop-up, I still see recalls for the late 80s come in..
Kevin, If the car goes in for service for something else, will service depts typically do the recall fix automatically without prior notification, or would they have the courtesy to ask you first?
It's been so long since I had to take a car in for dealer service...and if I do, I don't want this recall programming "fix", nor my CLB messed with.

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I bought my 2000 FRC from the original owner last year. His records indicate that the column lock harness was replaced in 2001 as part of a recall. Fortunately I guess, I've had no problems what so ever. The question I have now is, should I have the PCM reprogrammed as well via this latest recall, or just leave well enough alone? Thanks.
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Originally Posted by SteveL4446
I bought my 2000 FRC from the original owner last year. His records indicate that the column lock harness was replaced in 2001 as part of a recall. Fortunately I guess, I've had no problems what so ever. The question I have now is, should I have the PCM reprogrammed as well via this latest recall, or just leave well enough alone? Thanks.
I dont want to discourage anyone from having the recall performend because it includes a "function test" which checks for the column lock pin skipping along the lockplate.This is what has been reported to have caused the few cases of column locking while at speed,BUT,
the PCM reprogram that is performend in the recall for the M6 WILL NOT prevent a column lock fault.It simply prevents the operator from driving the vehicle should a column lock fault occur Given this,one can come to the conclusion that the only purpose of the recall on the M6 is to release GM from any liabilty.The only way to prevent column lockup on the M6 at startup is to install the CLB

The question is,can the CLB be used after the new programming and is it compatible?

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Originally Posted by Y2Kvert4me
Kevin, If the car goes in for service for something else, will service depts typically do the recall fix automatically without prior notification, or would they have the courtesy to ask you first?
It's been so long since I had to take a car in for dealer service...and if I do, I don't want this recall programming "fix", nor my CLB messed with.

Sometimes the dealers as a courtesy,trying to be pro-active will do a recall,without consulting the owner of the car, whenever the goverment is involved we dont have a choice about doing recalls, but if your tech knows what you have there is ways "Getting things done"
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Originally Posted by kp@hp
Love the c5rs.. All 97-2004 manual trans cars will be reprogrammed as part of the recall,the car I just finished also had other program changes "piggybacked" with the recall program IE: spark knock corrections.
Could you please elaborate on the piggy-backed changes, if you know them?

Thanks!
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Originally Posted by kp@hp
Just did the first of the next round of lock recalls, part of the new recall is reprogramming the PCM, if you have a custom/ls1edit program you might lose it and get just the latest Chevy program. We are going to check into further...
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Kevin- probably be visiting Bernard Chevy soon...
Read this thread yesterday, and got the CL recall notice from Bernard Chevy today for my 01 MN6. have not installed the bypass yet.. but notice read just as said in the other CL threads...reprogram of PCM and dealer will check to see if there is enough clearnce on lock plate/pins
I don't have any custom PCM programming (yet) so no issues there.
we shall see
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Old Aug 4, 2004 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by MrLeadFoot
Could you please elaborate on the piggy-backed changes, if you know them?

Thanks!
The 2000 FRC I did had the recall software but also had some updates for erratic gas gage and spark knock complaints, on a stock car it is a good deal. I guess what bugs me the most is the recall is really not about fixing the root cause, but making sure when it does not unlock you cant hurt yourself.... buy the CLB
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Kevin -

Can you install the CLB and put in the notice that it was completed?
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Can you install the CLB and put in the notice that it was completed?
I wouldn't expect him to answer that publicly.

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Old Aug 4, 2004 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Y2Kvert4me
Kevin, If the car goes in for service for something else, will service depts typically do the recall fix automatically without prior notification, or would they have the courtesy to ask you first?
It's been so long since I had to take a car in for dealer service...and if I do, I don't want this recall programming "fix", nor my CLB messed with.
My car was in for service yesterday and they reprogrammed the PCM without asking me. I didn't have any custom programming, but I do wish they would have called me.

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Old Aug 5, 2004 | 10:18 AM
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Mine was at a Corvette shop yesterday getting loaded up to go to the dealership since the Column is Locked. Then I came across this thread. Didn't read much into it, just saw that no one knew for sure if you have LS1 Edit if it will effect it. I immediately called the shop back and had the truck take my car and deliver it to my driveway instead of the service dept at the dealership. My car is a M6 and I read that computer reprogram will not correct CL on M6 cars. Plus, don't want to risk messing up my LS1 Edit that was expensive. I'm going to order CL Bypass Kit from wherever can get it to me the quickest. After I install it, will there be any safety issues with my car? Not that I'm the safest driver on the road, but I don't want to get froggy one afternoon and the column lock up at 130 mph.
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Does anyone know how we can find out for sure what EXACTLY the new PCM flash is supposed to do? Then we can make educated decisions on whether we even WANT to take our cars in the for the recall campaign?

I understand that people are saying that the recall flash only stops power to the vehicle if the column locks, but that can't be true, because if the column locks while driving, then more people will surely die that way, since they won't have power brakes anymore, nor will they be able to at least downshift to slow the car.
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Old Aug 5, 2004 | 02:27 PM
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Mine is in the shop presently and they just called to tell me about the recall (no notice in the mail yet.) Said the computer flash was for the BCM not the PCM and shouldn't affect my LS1-Edit-tailored program.

Guess we'll find out soon enough!!
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