Orange Peel !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Evil-Twin
Where do you get this information... 2 coats...did you make that up yourself
No I didn't. C5's get two clear coats. Premium paints have 3 clear coats because one coat is a color clear coat. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...t=Yellow+paint
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If you are in the St. Louis area, you have several large dealerships that you can try - Elco, Weber, Feld. Not sure how good the body shops are at any of these. Maybe someone who has had some body work done in St. Louis can give you some help.
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the best part of the nasty orange peel (and on the lower half of the doors, wow is it awful) on my brand spankin' new torch red z06 is when i'm inside and nailing the throttle: I CAN'T SEE IT!!!
i saw a color-sanded red z recently and wow what a difference. probably got sprayed with an extra coat of clear afterward, but i can't confirm that. in any event, it looked like a proper paint job should. gm paint sucks, that's just part of the fun.
i saw a color-sanded red z recently and wow what a difference. probably got sprayed with an extra coat of clear afterward, but i can't confirm that. in any event, it looked like a proper paint job should. gm paint sucks, that's just part of the fun.
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I would allow the dealer to pay for a wetsand and buff, but you choose the shop that does the work.
Wetsanding is not rocket science it just takes a patient person with a bit of practised skill. The results will be unbelievable. Go ahead and do this if you can locate someone you trust to do the work.
post some before and after pics. (I still haven't taken the time to learn how to post pics.)
good luck and don't give up.
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Wetsanding is not rocket science it just takes a patient person with a bit of practised skill. The results will be unbelievable. Go ahead and do this if you can locate someone you trust to do the work.
post some before and after pics. (I still haven't taken the time to learn how to post pics.)
good luck and don't give up.
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From: For the strength of the pack is the wolf . . . . . . and the strength of the wolf is the pack.
Originally Posted by crashOVERrideC5
Hey guys,
what exactly is orange peel.
what should i be looking for???
what exactly is orange peel.
what should i be looking for???
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Originally Posted by MyVetteDream
I can't wait to see how this turns out. I knw we all have it, but for the stealership to even make an effort? I almost fell out of my chair when I read that! I hope it all works out for you! Good luck. 
It does not bother me on my CE Lemans blue
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I have Torch Orange which hides the "orange peel" 
Just kidding. Frankly, I've never noticed any orange peel on my car. But it doesnt' surprise me that GM tries to run from their issues. Its one of the reasons why I chose to mod the C5 and pass on the C6. I really hope you get this worked out though, especially on a 2004 model!!!!
Just kidding. Frankly, I've never noticed any orange peel on my car. But it doesnt' surprise me that GM tries to run from their issues. Its one of the reasons why I chose to mod the C5 and pass on the C6. I really hope you get this worked out though, especially on a 2004 model!!!!
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I've bought several cars from ELCO and I've used their body shop several times. I can say that they have done an outstanding job on the two cars I've had to have repair work done on. Thankfully the Vette hasn't had anyone or anything hit it so I can't speak specifically on how they would treat Vettes but they've done a first rate job on my other cars.
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Originally Posted by Shylor
No I didn't. C5's get two clear coats. Premium paints have 3 clear coats because one coat is a color clear coat. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...t=Yellow+paint
If you block sand a car will you sand down 1/8th of the first coat??? 1/2 of the first coat... Many people have had this done to their car...
A coat of paint is the amount of paint put on a car and allowed to flash off... after the first coat has flashed off, another coat is applied on top , some of that paint adheres to the first coat, if the first coat is applied and is .003 in. thick, and after flashing off a second coat is applied .003 in. thick, but .001 of the second coat gets absorbed in the first coat, leaving you with .005 in clear coat... if the orange peel is .0015 in. deep, you will still have .0035 in of clear remaining on your car after you sand out the orange peel.
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Originally Posted by Vettlldo
I guess I was lucky. I have an '04 Medium Spiral Gray metallic vert and I have not yet seen any evidence of orange peel (it has 5000 miles and I have waxed it at least 3 times).
Anyway, I think orange peel is great -- gives a nice "hammered metal" effect!
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From: Central Coast CA
Originally Posted by Evil-Twin
My point being, how thick is a clear coat.
I have no idea how thick the clear coat is. Probably the norm for factory paints though. No matter how thick it is, it's still not much for a factory stock paint job. If you wet sanded this type of paint job then I'd have it re-clear coated again afterwards.
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I was at a Chevy dealer looking at a three o4's, black, red and blue. The orange peel was so bad, I made the comment that my refrigerator has a better finish ! Interesting thing though, I walked over to a row of about 20 new pickups and they all had a much better paint finish, almost no orange peel at all, and some were just plain flawless. This just doesn't make any sense...
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I almost backed out of the sale of my black C5 because of the orange peel. I've painted and flamed my pickup so I was thinking I may be a little pickier than usual. The sales guy and I laughed about orange peel being a "GM Trademark". For some reason, I think it's worse on the Vette than a lot of other cars. I've seen Mustangs that look a lot better.
Drive the car for a while till it gets chipped up and worn a little and then start messing with the paint. I've got 36,000 now and the front is starting to look slightly sandblasted.
Repainting and flaming is a lot more fun when it really needs it.
Drive the car for a while till it gets chipped up and worn a little and then start messing with the paint. I've got 36,000 now and the front is starting to look slightly sandblasted.
Repainting and flaming is a lot more fun when it really needs it.
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The orange peel definately looks worse on the C5's than what's on the C4's. Can anyone explain why C5's are getting such bad paint jobs?
If it wasn't cost prohibited, I'd get my car repainted and have about 10 coats of clear added. Then I could wet sand it all day long, like show cars do.
If it wasn't cost prohibited, I'd get my car repainted and have about 10 coats of clear added. Then I could wet sand it all day long, like show cars do.
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Originally Posted by Mike73
I was at a Chevy dealer looking at a three o4's, black, red and blue. The orange peel was so bad, I made the comment that my refrigerator has a better finish ! Interesting thing though, I walked over to a row of about 20 new pickups and they all had a much better paint finish, almost no orange peel at all, and some were just plain flawless. This just doesn't make any sense...
So it reacts differently