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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 12:57 AM
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Does anyone know the root cause of the column lock problem? Does the lock motor fail? Does the locking pin bind against the locking plate?
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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 05:01 AM
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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by slwhite
Does anyone know the root cause of the column lock problem? Does the lock motor fail? Does the locking pin bind against the locking plate?

an engineer was rushing out the door on a friday because he was going to get drunk with some friends and while on his way out he found a flaw in the column lock device because he got so trashed monday morning he forgot all about it and the column lock was produced as is

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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Neablas
an engineer was rushing out the door on a friday because he was going to get drunk with some friends and while on his way out he found a flaw in the column lock device because he got so trashed monday morning he forgot all about it and the column lock was produced as is

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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 08:11 AM
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Good question. Has anyone asked Dave Hill that question ? And will this problem be carried over into the C6's ? Save the Wave.>George
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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by slwhite
Does anyone know the root cause of the column lock problem? Does the lock motor fail? Does the locking pin bind against the locking plate?
Many theories... few definitive answers.

Theories include:
a) Misalignment and binding, worsening over time, possibly the result of folks using the steering wheel as a brace getting in and out of the car...
b) Column lock motor poorly made and weakening (degrading) over time
c) Longterm effects of summer heat and battery voltage degradation
d) Just a plain old bad design
e) All of the above

Who knows, who cares? My recall notice has arrived and I will be column lock-free by the end of next week!!!

Monk
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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 08:46 AM
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I don't know but when you least expect it " Service Column Lock"!
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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 02:50 PM
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I don't know but when you least expect it " Service Column Lock"!
Problem ? What problem ? If there was a problem they would have fixed it.

Come on don't believe all you read. It is like newspapers. It is not all true. Some people have more time on their hands than they need.
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What "service column lock"? I have an '04 automatic!
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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 09:09 PM
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When mine finally went bad I took special interest to find out this answer. I believe it to be an excess current draw from the motor, due either to lack of lubrication or shorting of some of the windings. Though I never pulled the wheel and the motor itself, the evidence was slightly melted wire insulation and (the very first sign) the slightly "relaxing" of the electrical connector pins (in the plug/socket where you plug in the CLBypass). After I "re-bent" the pins, I got another couple weeks out of the system before it failed to un-lock again, and this time it took my big bench power supply to un-lock it (the cigarette lighter cord would NOT supply enough current this time!!).

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Originally Posted by slwhite
Does anyone know the root cause of the column lock problem? Does the lock motor fail? Does the locking pin bind against the locking plate?
Dead spot in the actuator 99.9% of the time The fact that I have unlocked at least 100 of them over the past 8 years by simply tapping the actuator with a hammer (lock plate on or off) is proof of that... That is why it is eliminated on the A4 and why there is no guaranteed fix for the M6 short of installing a "fresh" actuator that will fail again in the future or the CLB of course

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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 06:17 AM
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The latest recall requires a check of the clearance between the lock pin and the lock plate, so it would appear that mechanical binding is at least a contributing factor.

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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by tipcapman
The latest recall requires a check of the clearance between the lock pin and the lock plate, so it would appear that mechanical binding is at least a contributing factor.

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The clearance check or "function test" as it is called calls for the tech to simply listen for the possibility of the pin contacting the plate while turning the wheel with the key on.This condition is what potentually can cause locking at speed.Checking the clearance has nothing to do with the failure to unlock issue when turning the key on
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 07:28 AM
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There are already several open threads and dozens of "archived" threads, please do a search so this doesn't become the CL section
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