Radar Detection
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Radar Detection
According to the following article if you have a black car with no chrome, pop down headlights, and no front license plate, it is virtually impossible to detect your car.
"A laser gun’s ability to target is greatly based on the color of the vehicle. The lighter the vehicle, the easier the targeting. A white colored vehicle is the easiest target for a laser gun as the color white reflects all colors including laser’s infrared light. The darker the vehicle the more difficult it is to target. A black car with no chrome, no front plate, and pop down headlights is virtually impossible to target with laser. "
http://www.speedzones.com/
"A laser gun’s ability to target is greatly based on the color of the vehicle. The lighter the vehicle, the easier the targeting. A white colored vehicle is the easiest target for a laser gun as the color white reflects all colors including laser’s infrared light. The darker the vehicle the more difficult it is to target. A black car with no chrome, no front plate, and pop down headlights is virtually impossible to target with laser. "
http://www.speedzones.com/
Le Mans Master
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I don't know about this one. The amount of reflectivity and color may not coincide. A black car is none the less shiny (reflective) because it is black. In fact, the color black is black because it reflects the entire color spectrum - not just the wave length of a particular color.
I don't think I'd trust being stealthy against a laser based on having a black car. Other than that they do look cool.
I don't think I'd trust being stealthy against a laser based on having a black car. Other than that they do look cool.
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Originally Posted by CAJUNY2KC5
I don't know about this one. The amount of reflectivity and color may not coincide. A black car is none the less shiny (reflective) because it is black. In fact, the color black is black because it reflects the entire color spectrum - not just the wave length of a particular color.
I don't think I'd trust being stealthy against a laser based on having a black car. Other than that they do look cool.
I don't think I'd trust being stealthy against a laser based on having a black car. Other than that they do look cool.
...I'm still looking into getting laser strips.
Burning Brakes
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RADAR = Radio Detection and Ranging
Color or lack of a license plate does not effect radar. If this was the case then every Soviet MIG produced during the cold war years would have been termed a "stealth" aircraft.
A radar unit transmits a signal at a given frequency, and is returned to the unit at a different frequency which is then given at MPH based on the frequency change.
Radar is not new technology, and there have been several untruths told over the years as to how to defeat it. Some of which are quite funny. Jamming devices, or any instrument that scrambles radio signals are not new technology either, but both have been used with success in defeating/confusing radar.
I could go into more detail - but there is no sense in boring folks.
Color or lack of a license plate does not effect radar. If this was the case then every Soviet MIG produced during the cold war years would have been termed a "stealth" aircraft.
A radar unit transmits a signal at a given frequency, and is returned to the unit at a different frequency which is then given at MPH based on the frequency change.
Radar is not new technology, and there have been several untruths told over the years as to how to defeat it. Some of which are quite funny. Jamming devices, or any instrument that scrambles radio signals are not new technology either, but both have been used with success in defeating/confusing radar.
I could go into more detail - but there is no sense in boring folks.
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Agreed about Radar, but I think the issue is about laser guns which use light, not radio waves.
Using a radar jamming device is illegal because the broadcast of radio waves is regulated and licenses are required. However, broadcasting light waves is NOT regulated and there are laser jamming systems available if you're willing to pay the price (around $3K).
Using a radar jamming device is illegal because the broadcast of radio waves is regulated and licenses are required. However, broadcasting light waves is NOT regulated and there are laser jamming systems available if you're willing to pay the price (around $3K).
Melting Slicks
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Originally Posted by CAJUNY2KC5
Agreed about Radar, but I think the issue is about laser guns which use light, not radio waves.
Using a radar jamming device is illegal because the broadcast of radio waves is regulated and licenses are required. However, broadcasting light waves is NOT regulated and there are laser jamming systems available if you're willing to pay the price (around $3K).
Using a radar jamming device is illegal because the broadcast of radio waves is regulated and licenses are required. However, broadcasting light waves is NOT regulated and there are laser jamming systems available if you're willing to pay the price (around $3K).
Where would you spend $3k for a Laser jammer? You would only pay $300-$600.
Also, Black is the abscence of color and a Black(true black) color absorbs all light and reflects none. White, conversely is the reflection of all colors and is the easier color to Laser. Other colors are seen because they reflect that color and absorb all other wave lengths. It can be confusing.
Burning Brakes
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Originally Posted by CAJUNY2KC5
Agreed about Radar, but I think the issue is about laser guns which use light, not radio waves.
Using a radar jamming device is illegal because the broadcast of radio waves is regulated and licenses are required. However, broadcasting light waves is NOT regulated and there are laser jamming systems available if you're willing to pay the price (around $3K).
Using a radar jamming device is illegal because the broadcast of radio waves is regulated and licenses are required. However, broadcasting light waves is NOT regulated and there are laser jamming systems available if you're willing to pay the price (around $3K).
That's what happens when one does not read a post carefully. I'm sure that a jamming system could be had for $3K, but there are some available for about $4C. Okay if someone is that intent on driving fast. You and I (and many, many others) know the best way to avoid a speeding ticket is to not speed. 
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Originally Posted by drcoffee
Cajun,
Where would you spend $3k for a Laser jammer? You would only pay $300-$600.
Also, Black is the abscence of color and a Black(true black) color absorbs all light and reflects none. White, conversely is the reflection of all colors and is the easier color to Laser. Other colors are seen because they reflect that color and absorb all other wave lengths. It can be confusing.
Where would you spend $3k for a Laser jammer? You would only pay $300-$600.
Also, Black is the abscence of color and a Black(true black) color absorbs all light and reflects none. White, conversely is the reflection of all colors and is the easier color to Laser. Other colors are seen because they reflect that color and absorb all other wave lengths. It can be confusing.
The only laser jamming (not detection device) I've seen that actually broadcasts light back to a laser gun to confuse its receiption was in Corvette Fever (I'm pretty sure that was the article) quite some time back. To jam the device you need to transmit a signal back to it. To detect it, you only need to receive it.
There are any number of detectors for a few $hundred that will alert you for receiving a light signal but I've only seen the one on actually jamming it.
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Melting Slicks
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Originally Posted by CAJUNY2KC5
The only laser jamming (not detection device) I've seen that actually broadcasts light back to a laser gun to confuse its receiption was in Corvette Fever (I'm pretty sure that was the article) quite some time back. To jam the device you need to transmit a signal back to it. To detect it, you only need to receive it.
There are any number of detectors for a few $hundred that will alert you for receiving a light signal but I've only seen the one on actually jamming it.
There are any number of detectors for a few $hundred that will alert you for receiving a light signal but I've only seen the one on actually jamming it.
No! Go Google "Blinder M20" "Escort Laser Shifter" etc. These devices do broadcast a signal back to the Laser gun once it detects the Laser gun signal. And they only cost between $300-$600 depending on the brand you choose. Maybe it's a Kanuk thing. 
Racer
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Speaking of Laser jammers
A Lidatek le-30 has just been ordered for the C5 - anyone have experience with the unit? This is the new one, just came out a few months ago. The m5 and audi guys rave about the Lidatek - they seem to be more into these than the Corvette Camaro crowd.
http://www.lidatek.com
http://www.lidatek.com
Le Mans Master
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Originally Posted by drcoffee
No! Go Google "Blinder M20" "Escort Laser Shifter" etc. These devices do broadcast a signal back to the Laser gun once it detects the Laser gun signal. And they only cost between $300-$600 depending on the brand you choose. Maybe it's a Kanuk thing. 
The article I was referencing has been out for some time and I'm sure newer goodies are available and like a lot of other technological things the prices are coming down.
Could be Kanuk. I'm of Louisiana Cajun descent. We have a hard time figuring ourselves out.
