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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 04:47 PM
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I actually love the interior of the vettes. Sure they don't use the highest quality parts, but when I'm at the track I don't stroke the interior, I have to concentrate to make sure all the tourque don't slam me into a wall.

I'm pretty sure the reason for not having steering wheel controls is for the fact it weighs too much. It's a sports car. Every ounce helps. For ever ounce of weight you save by not putting in useless things (ex. steering controls) you can use that weight for better performing parts.

Also a side note. For me, I think the C5 has the best gauge cluster I've ever seen. Throw some bezles on and looks even better.
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by pk2401
I actually love the interior of the vettes. Sure they don't use the highest quality parts, but when I'm at the track I don't stroke the interior, I have to concentrate to make sure all the tourque don't slam me into a wall.

I'm pretty sure the reason for not having steering wheel controls is for the fact it weighs too much. It's a sports car. Every ounce helps. For ever ounce of weight you save by not putting in useless things (ex. steering controls) you can use that weight for better performing parts.

Also a side note. For me, I think the C5 has the best gauge cluster I've ever seen. Throw some bezles on and looks even better.

That is added weight
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by . The 63 (one of my favorites, thanks Larry S.) had a lot of quality problems, the tri-power set up could go up in flames, [/QUOTE

63 had tri-power????
The '63 had quality prob, and the '67 tri power did also ....soooory for the misprint.
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 05:54 PM
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I could not agree more and will go one step further why is the Vette engine in a firebird or a GTO some flagship car

I mean I realy like it but it has a lot of short comings

just my opnion
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 05:57 PM
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Isn't it also in the SSR?
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 06:00 PM
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I think anyone who berates a Corvette because it isn't a Lexus is demonstrating an appalling lack of understanding of what a Corvette is.

As someone said above, enjoy the Lexus and leave the Corvettes to those of us who understand and appreciate them.

There is little hope of communication here.

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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 07:36 PM
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I don't think anyone is really saying the Corvette should be like a Lexus. I think what was meant is that the Corvette should just have more quality. For me, the cheap interior trim pieces bug me. You don't have to compare a Lexus to the C6 to see it, try comparing a 1968 Camaro interior to the C6. The C6 might win on interior looks but cheapo panel parts aren't found on that old Camaro.

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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Vozin
I dunno how to say this - I love the vette - but after owning a Lexus - I feel let down by GM - My car is in the shop much more ofter - I do not get the same attention from the dealer and interior is on par with my Maid's Chevette (hmmm)

I mean really - the stock radio is the same one in many GM cars and trucks and the rest of the interior plastics are blah... A Nissan Sentra has a nicer interior - I only wish GM would stop worrying about the bottom line and put some pride in the vette - otherwise I really like the car..

Ps: One last gripe - 1997-2004: 8 years and they all look EXACTLY the same (save for the wheels)!! What happened to product development?
Gonna be hard makin' friends by doggin' their beloved autos.....

If you want a comfortable, luxurious, and most important slow *** car, buy another Lexus.

As for the vette, modify it, if you want something new or different....Vette essentials for the interior....

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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by jimhallhdg
There is always something to complain about. I have had 2 C4s and 1 C5 and have had no major problem and only a few minor problems. I sold my 93 with 112,000 miles and it was running strong.

The bottom line is owning a Corvette is better than owning a Lexus.



You don't see a Lexus Forum do you?

Exactly.....
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 08:21 PM
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Thanks to all that responded – you made some good points - I have seen some intelligent observations and some emotional comments - bottom line is this - If u like something and are a fan then u want to see it grow and become a better product.

My Aim: To discuss (objectively) the pros and cons of owning this American Icon

What I hope for: That GM would listen and start treating the car with the respect it deserves (rather than just a piece of meat).

The Vette is not cheap and if Toyota can put more quality into a Camry for 22 grand - why cant GM do it??

For 53 grand I (the fans) deserve to get some quality.. The seats could be so much more - If only I could take the body and Engine of a Vette and graft that on an SC430 then I would have the perfect car!

Can someone explain to me why the Vette has no side air bags? especially when the bumper of a typical SUV is within the head height of a Vette driver - there is nothing but glass between me and that bumper.

I am a big Vette fan and that is why when I look at it and think why did they not add these things?!!?

Possible year to year improvements that would have the corvette even more awesome:

97-99 Same car
00-01 - freshened Wheels (they did) Freshen the front a little and the tail and the interior - side Airbags standard - HUD lamps - 20 horses
02-04 - Updates electronics – optional navigation and curtain and side Airbags - minor updates to the interior (400 HP) engine (on the reg model) standard oh and a 5 speed Auto

I will post some pics later of what I feel the vette could have looked like - man there is some potential in this car
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 08:27 PM
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What I hope for: That GM would listen and start treating the car with the respect it deserves (rather than just a piece of meat).

The Vette is not cheap and if Toyota can put more quality into a Camry for 22 grand - why cant GM do it??
Here here!


Can someone explain to me why the Vette has no side air bags?
At least now the C6 has them.

Personally I liked that the C5 body stayed the same during it's production run. I hate it when manufactures change it up every few years.
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Vozin
The Vette is not cheap and if Toyota can put more quality into a Camry for 22 grand - why cant GM do it??
The rest of the Camry hardly resembles the rest of the Corvette.

Your reasoning is seriously flawed.

Cheers!
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Old One
The rest of the Camry hardly resembles the rest of the Corvette.

Your reasoning is seriously flawed.

He didn't say a Camry resembled a Corvette. He said, if Toyota can put more quality in a $22k Camry why can't GM? Meaning a Camry has better quality than the Corvette. I tend agree.

Although GM is getting better, I don't understand why it's taking them so long. Why can't we have performance, horsepower and the better quality (of less expensive car), at a fair price? I know the priority of the Corvette is performance but isn't it possible to get better quality without increasing the overall cost to much?
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 10:06 PM
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dumb conversation!
If you REALLY drive a Vette then you know why!?
Like this morning 120 in 4th, top down screaming down 495 in Mass. what a morning.
Saw my exit put on my blinker brought it down to 50-60 for a 25 mph ramp ripped around the corner ( i was not looking for radio controls on the steerling wheel). Pulled into the parking lot someone made a nice comment about how much he loved the car.

Try that with your Camry or Lexus....


Come on..lets go for a ride.............how many camry owners say that
for 30 plus K for a Camry you would think they would make the beautiful interior go a lot faster

I love my wicked fast cheap plastic interior Convert. C5
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by lavoieste
dumb conversation! Like this morning 120 in 4th, top down screaming down 495 in Mass. what a morning.
What is dumb is doing 120mph on the streets! Be safe and save that stuff for the track.
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 10:20 PM
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I really don't have any reservations with the C5 interior. In fact, the driver's instrument panel was a selling point for me. Too, I have yet to see a Lexus that I was overly impressed with. But I guess what this all goes to show is that any one car cannot be all things to all people.

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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 11:07 PM
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Vozin,

I agree with you. I myself have an LS400 in the garage. I fully realized when I was going to buy mine that my Z would be strictly purchased for its power and handling prowess (why I didn't pick a coupe or a convertible). I have several principles that I follow strictly when adding a member to my stable. Although I make much less money compared to most people in here, I try to stick to my principles as close as possible. In this case, it's about going to the extreme (within the limits of my financial capability of course). Power & handling = Z06 and for a luxurious, comfortable, ultra high quality people hauler = LS400.

I'm very objective about my vehicles (blame it on having a manufacturing engineering background), so, yes, I'll even take a lowly Toyota Corolla over my Z06 when it comes to overall build quality judging. But going to autox/road racing/DE ... I have a feeling that even the V8-powered LS400 just won't cut it. Yes, I did run it a couple of laps at an autox and, no, it didn't work too well.

The Z06 is good for distracting drivers on highways (and they sometimes drift toward me as they were drooling), attracting unwanted attention from cops and, uh, immature crowd (boy do I hate them). Not to mention the "Can I ride/sit in it ?" and the "What kind of people own a car like that ?" questions. But for the money, boy, it goes like stink and turns like it's on rail and as a friend of mine puts it, "it's stupid fast". I'll be hard pressed to find a car with such performance for the money. Yes, a Gallardo can equal its performance (Italian styling is hard to beat as well) but the price of admission is nearly 4x of what I paid for the Z.

Just a suggestion, next time try to be a little more tactful, there are a lot of fanatic die hards in here who are not as objective as me. Use sentences like, "What do you guys think that they can improve the craftmanship on the C5 ? Why did GM have to go with such interior craftmanship ?". Saying things like "What are these bloody hell gaps on the dashboard ?!?" are like saying that you don't wave to other Corvette drivers (you don't want to touch that one, trust me)

nb: about side airbags and things. HELL NO. It's bad enough that GM put power seat/leather/HUD in the Z06 (I thought they were on a path to lose weight ?). No need to add more weight.

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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Vozin

Ps: One last gripe - 1997-2004: 8 years and they all look EXACTLY the same (save for the wheels)!! What happened to product development?
Its under the hood!
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Old Aug 21, 2004 | 08:54 AM
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Hey Vozin,

I'm on my 2cnd Lexus and there is no comparison in terms of quality between GM and Lexus anymore than there is a comparison between the euphoria in driving a C5 vs driving the Lexus. The fact is they are apples and oranges with respect to fun, quality and service.

I would never give up the C5 because of its heart-pounding enjoyment and that held true even before I got my TT package. But I would also never give up the quality, comfort and noiseproofing of my LS430 and the prince-like treatment that I receive at Lexus service. In fact I kinda wish the Lexus would have the quality issues of my C5. That way I could spend more time in having free bagels/cream cheese, danish, hot chocolate or coffee while also sitting on Luxurious leather couches in Lexus waiitng room or hopping on one of the 3 computers in their other room.

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Old Aug 21, 2004 | 09:00 AM
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Hey I got the answer. Get the new Ecklers catalog, if I'm not mistaken I think on pg 65 they have a C5 body kit for the Lexus!
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