Vette Quality issues
I'm pretty sure the reason for not having steering wheel controls is for the fact it weighs too much. It's a sports car. Every ounce helps. For ever ounce of weight you save by not putting in useless things (ex. steering controls) you can use that weight for better performing parts.
Also a side note. For me, I think the C5 has the best gauge cluster I've ever seen. Throw some bezles on and looks even better.





I'm pretty sure the reason for not having steering wheel controls is for the fact it weighs too much. It's a sports car. Every ounce helps. For ever ounce of weight you save by not putting in useless things (ex. steering controls) you can use that weight for better performing parts.
Also a side note. For me, I think the C5 has the best gauge cluster I've ever seen. Throw some bezles on and looks even better.
That is added weight
63 had tri-power????

I mean I realy like it but it has a lot of short comings
just my opnion
As someone said above, enjoy the Lexus and leave the Corvettes to those of us who understand and appreciate them.
There is little hope of communication here.
Cheers!
Last edited by Shylor; Aug 20, 2004 at 07:54 PM.
I mean really - the stock radio is the same one in many GM cars and trucks and the rest of the interior plastics are blah... A Nissan Sentra has a nicer interior - I only wish GM would stop worrying about the bottom line and put some pride in the vette - otherwise I really like the car..
Ps: One last gripe - 1997-2004: 8 years and they all look EXACTLY the same (save for the wheels)!! What happened to product development?
If you want a comfortable, luxurious, and most important slow *** car, buy another Lexus.
As for the vette, modify it, if you want something new or different....Vette essentials for the interior....
Nuf said
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The bottom line is owning a Corvette is better than owning a Lexus.

You don't see a Lexus Forum do you?
Exactly.....
My Aim: To discuss (objectively) the pros and cons of owning this American Icon
What I hope for: That GM would listen and start treating the car with the respect it deserves (rather than just a piece of meat).
The Vette is not cheap and if Toyota can put more quality into a Camry for 22 grand - why cant GM do it??
For 53 grand I (the fans) deserve to get some quality.. The seats could be so much more - If only I could take the body and Engine of a Vette and graft that on an SC430 then I would have the perfect car!
Can someone explain to me why the Vette has no side air bags? especially when the bumper of a typical SUV is within the head height of a Vette driver - there is nothing but glass between me and that bumper.
I am a big Vette fan and that is why when I look at it and think why did they not add these things?!!?
Possible year to year improvements that would have the corvette even more awesome:
97-99 Same car
00-01 - freshened Wheels (they did) Freshen the front a little and the tail and the interior - side Airbags standard - HUD lamps - 20 horses
02-04 - Updates electronics – optional navigation and curtain and side Airbags - minor updates to the interior (400 HP) engine (on the reg model) standard oh and a 5 speed Auto
I will post some pics later of what I feel the vette could have looked like - man there is some potential in this car
The Vette is not cheap and if Toyota can put more quality into a Camry for 22 grand - why cant GM do it??
Personally I liked that the C5 body stayed the same during it's production run. I hate it when manufactures change it up every few years.
Your reasoning is seriously flawed.
Cheers!
Your reasoning is seriously flawed.
He didn't say a Camry resembled a Corvette. He said, if Toyota can put more quality in a $22k Camry why can't GM? Meaning a Camry has better quality than the Corvette. I tend agree.
Although GM is getting better, I don't understand why it's taking them so long. Why can't we have performance, horsepower and the better quality (of less expensive car), at a fair price? I know the priority of the Corvette is performance but isn't it possible to get better quality without increasing the overall cost to much?
If you REALLY drive a Vette then you know why!?
Like this morning 120 in 4th, top down screaming down 495 in Mass. what a morning.
Saw my exit put on my blinker brought it down to 50-60 for a 25 mph ramp ripped around the corner ( i was not looking for radio controls on the steerling wheel). Pulled into the parking lot someone made a nice comment about how much he loved the car.
Try that with your Camry or Lexus....
Come on..lets go for a ride.............how many camry owners say that
for 30 plus K for a Camry you would think they would make the beautiful interior go a lot faster
I love my wicked fast cheap plastic interior Convert. C5
Last edited by GrayC5; Aug 20, 2004 at 10:23 PM. Reason: Typing/Spelling
I agree with you. I myself have an LS400 in the garage. I fully realized when I was going to buy mine that my Z would be strictly purchased for its power and handling prowess (why I didn't pick a coupe or a convertible). I have several principles that I follow strictly when adding a member to my stable. Although I make much less money compared to most people in here, I try to stick to my principles as close as possible. In this case, it's about going to the extreme (within the limits of my financial capability of course). Power & handling = Z06 and for a luxurious, comfortable, ultra high quality people hauler = LS400.
I'm very objective about my vehicles (blame it on having a manufacturing engineering background), so, yes, I'll even take a lowly Toyota Corolla over my Z06 when it comes to overall build quality judging. But going to autox/road racing/DE ... I have a feeling that even the V8-powered LS400 just won't cut it. Yes, I did run it a couple of laps at an autox and, no, it didn't work too well.
The Z06 is good for distracting drivers on highways (and they sometimes drift toward me as they were drooling), attracting unwanted attention from cops and, uh, immature crowd (boy do I hate them). Not to mention the "Can I ride/sit in it ?" and the "What kind of people own a car like that ?" questions. But for the money, boy, it goes like stink and turns like it's on rail and as a friend of mine puts it, "it's stupid fast". I'll be hard pressed to find a car with such performance for the money. Yes, a Gallardo can equal its performance (Italian styling is hard to beat as well) but the price of admission is nearly 4x of what I paid for the Z.
Just a suggestion, next time try to be a little more tactful, there are a lot of fanatic die hards in here who are not as objective as me. Use sentences like, "What do you guys think that they can improve the craftmanship on the C5 ? Why did GM have to go with such interior craftmanship ?". Saying things like "What are these bloody hell gaps on the dashboard ?!?" are like saying that you don't wave to other Corvette drivers (you don't want to touch that one, trust me)

nb: about side airbags and things. HELL NO. It's bad enough that GM put power seat/leather/HUD in the Z06 (I thought they were on a path to lose weight ?). No need to add more weight.
Last edited by Wah; Aug 20, 2004 at 11:10 PM.
I'm on my 2cnd Lexus and there is no comparison in terms of quality between GM and Lexus anymore than there is a comparison between the euphoria in driving a C5 vs driving the Lexus. The fact is they are apples and oranges with respect to fun, quality and service.
I would never give up the C5 because of its heart-pounding enjoyment and that held true even before I got my TT package. But I would also never give up the quality, comfort and noiseproofing of my LS430 and the prince-like treatment that I receive at Lexus service. In fact I kinda wish the Lexus would have the quality issues of my C5. That way I could spend more time in having free bagels/cream cheese, danish, hot chocolate or coffee while also sitting on Luxurious leather couches in Lexus waiitng room or hopping on one of the 3 computers in their other room.
Last edited by GR8-LIFE; Aug 21, 2004 at 09:02 AM.














