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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 08:23 AM
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I am looking for some help. I have had several things go wrong with my 1999 coupe in the last couple of weeks. It started a couple of weeks ago when I noticed moisture on the passenger side floor after running the AC. I called the dealer an they said that sometimes the drain gets plugged and it will take a couple of hours to tear the car apart and fix it. Then the fan for the AC stopped working.

I recently received the recall for the steering column. I have yet to have a problem with it, but this week, for the first time, I am getting the 'pull key and wait ten seconds' message.

Now for the big problem. I made an appointment to get all of the above fixed. I started the car and let it idle for a bit. I jumped in and started to back up and the car shut off. I tried several times and the same thing happened. I can rev the engine as much as I want, but as soon as I start to pull out, the car shuts off. I tried in 1st, 2nd and reverse. I called the dealer and he had no idea what the problem was, but thought it could possibly be the fuel pump. I don't think so since I can rev the engine clear to redline. I also let the car sit and tried it later, but had the same problem.

Any input concerning these problems would be greatly appreciated, especially concerning the car shutting off. Thanks.
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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 08:29 AM
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When you start it, prior to putting it in gear, can you turn the steering wheel?
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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 08:32 AM
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The car shutting off on you is the column lock not allowing you to move because it shuts of fuel when it is malfunctioning for safety reasons.

The A/C drain you can do yourself from under the car (near the battery at the firewall). It does not take 2 hours to accomplish that.

The A/C blower is not that difficult to replace if you're mechanically-inclined but that's your call.
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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 08:37 AM
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So if the column lock is shutting off my fuel. How can I make so I can drive to the dealer?
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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 08:40 AM
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If you computer has gotten wet (very possible since your AC drain is clogged), it could be the cause of all your problems.

Check and see. If it's gotten wet, maybe you can get it dried out and see if you problems go away.
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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 08:48 AM
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When I start the car, I can turn the wheels no problem.
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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 08:48 AM
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If you computer has gotten wet (very possible since your AC drain is clogged), it could be the cause of all your problems.

Check and see. If it's gotten wet, maybe you can get it dried out and see if you problems go away.
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Pay the $50 for a wrecker. Good grief! Why risk screwing up your car?
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Hey Jack, thanks for your 'stupid' comment. It is greatly appreciated.

First, I live in a very rural area and do not trust any of the tow trucks around here. Second, I don't like the Chevrolet dealership that is closest to me, so the tow bill would definately be a lot more to get it to the dealer that I use.
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Originally Posted by Patches
The car shutting off on you is the column lock not allowing you to move because it shuts of fuel when it is malfunctioning for safety reasons.

The A/C drain you can do yourself from under the car (near the battery at the firewall). It does not take 2 hours to accomplish that.

The A/C blower is not that difficult to replace if you're mechanically-inclined but that's your call.

, I think the fuel is being shut off is due to the column lock issue.

At this point, you have two options;

1) Order and install the Column Lock Bypass. I know there are issues with the CLB and 97-98 vettes. I don't believe 99's suffer this problem. Maybe someone out there with a 99 and CLB can chime in concerning this. (The Search function is not working very well right now or the answer to that could be determined fairly quickly)

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2) Call you dealer and have them pick the car up for the CL recall servicing. If the CL IS causing the fuel to be shutoff, then GM will pickup the transport tab too!

Then deal with your mis-behaving AC as you see fit. Just don't run you AC until its resolved.

Good luck!

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Originally Posted by PSP3608
Hey Jack, thanks for your 'stupid' comment. It is greatly appreciated.

First, I live in a very rural area and do not trust any of the tow trucks around here. Second, I don't like the Chevrolet dealership that is closest to me, so the tow bill would definately be a lot more to get it to the dealer that I use.
Yeah well, I guess it was a stupid comment.

Me, I'd rather spend a little more time and money to avoid tearing up my car, but what the hell do I know? That's just me. Go ahead and dick around with your electrical system when you don't know what you're doing. Have fun!

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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 02:36 PM
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Those of you who have had constructive comments, thank you. It is greatly appreciated. I have a call into the dealer to see what they say about the steering column lock causing the car to shut off. I welcome your opinions on this. Thanks.
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Those of you who have had constructive comments, thank you. It is greatly appreciated. I have a call into the dealer to see what they say about the steering column lock causing the car to shut off. I welcome your opinions on this. Thanks.
Most likely your BCM is fried,you will have to have it towed,the same thing happened to me and they had to replace it.ITs the BCM too,not the whole PCM,at least thats what the tech at Corvettes of Houston said .He told me that s what happens with the code,steering colum was not locked was it?Just the code that says Pull Key and Service column lock.Hopefully it didnt fry you BCM ,I was told that its expensive,mine was covered under and maybe yours will be too ,under the recall,if thats what has happened .Good luck and keep us posted.

Edit: I had the car fixed at the dealer then talked to the tech at Corvettes of Houston when I went to pick up the CLB.I did not tell him what the dealer did and he was right on saying the BCM was fried ...

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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 04:04 PM
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Those of you who have had constructive comments, thank you. It is greatly appreciated. I have a call into the dealer to see what they say about the steering column lock causing the car to shut off. I welcome your opinions on this. Thanks.
Your airconditioner drained onto your BCM this was bad engineering and bad design to begin with. May have fried it. Sort of like the leaky battery located on top of the PCM that when the acid leaked your whole system fried itself..because the battery was located right above all of the computers & wiring. Seems like they made the car to fail. Will have to find out a PERMANENT fix like Optima battery (a gel type battery) for leaky battery not a band aid that Chevrolet is so used to doing to cover up problems.
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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 04:18 PM
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If the security system is screwed up, it will also cause the symptoms you're describing. I would try resetting all of the computers by disconnecting the battery. Also, as mentioned check the electrical area behind the panel in the passenger footwell for wet connections. Use a hairdryer to get any moisture out. Then reconnect the battery & start fresh. Hope this helps.
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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 09:19 PM
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The other members who are saying BCM problems are on the right path in MHO. That module is right near or under the evaporator from what I can see in the diagram. You may want to scan for codes and see what comes back. But, you may to disconnect the battery and dry it off and see if it comes back to life. Good luck. Also, just fyi, that module communicates with other modules in the car via serial data line. The BCM also monitors the key and controls the column lock. If it got wet it may not be communicating properly with the other controls.

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My guess is that your column lock is causing the car to quit running when you try to take off. Have them check this out.

But, if there was water in the passenger side foot well, it could be playing havoc with the computer under the carpet. Check out this area carefully also.
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Sorry to hear about the problems. Good luck with the repairs!
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Well, I decided to take a chance and call a flatbed. My car is on it's way to the dealer as we speak. I will keep you posted.
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Well, I decided to take a chance and call a flatbed. My car is on it's way to the dealer as we speak. I will keep you posted.
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