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Old Sep 4, 2004 | 10:11 PM
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Just wanted to say, I installed a set of these today and am amazed at the increase in visibility. If you have been thinking about doing it, go for it, you will not be disappointed. Best $40 bucks I have spent.

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Old Sep 4, 2004 | 10:55 PM
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Mee too ican believe the difference
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Old Sep 4, 2004 | 11:26 PM
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It's a great upgrade if you do not plan to change the lenses to the Euro lenses. If you want kick-*** night time lighting, the Euro kit is the only way to go. PFYC carries both Silverstar and a few different Euro upgrade plug and play kits for those who are interested. We have a lot of headlight experience with the C5, so give us a shout or post here.

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Old Sep 4, 2004 | 11:28 PM
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Thanks for the tip!
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Old Sep 4, 2004 | 11:56 PM
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Silverstars suck to be honest with you.

Its whiter light, but its not any brighter.

Only worth the switch if you already have 2 or 3 bulbs out and have to replace them anyways.

Just my opinion (and about a thousand other people that have agreed in other threads like this one).
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Old Sep 4, 2004 | 11:57 PM
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Nobody said Silverstars were any brighter. They are advertised as only whiter - not brighter. So if you are expecting brighter, and using that as your basis for saying they "suck" then I guess they do But if you look at what you are buying, you are getting exactly what is advertised. A whiter light, which most people find easier to see by even though the wattage is the same.

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Nobody said Silverstars were any brighter. They are advertised as only whiter - not brighter. So if you are expecting brighter, and using that as your basis for saying they "suck" then I guess they do But if you look at what you are buying, you are getting exactly what is advertised. A whiter light, which most people find easier to see by even though the wattage is the same.

Ok...you're right. I guess when everyone does a headlight upgrade all that they care about is how white the light is and not how bright the light is.

I guess all the people that are DYING to do the HID upgrades just want them for the "blue-ish" tint to them, not the brightness.

All the THOUSANDS of people who are doing the PIAA foglight upgrade are just doing it for the fun of it, not for the fact that they are twice as bright as the stock fog lights.

My statement was just simple, plain english stating that 99% of the people who did the Silverstar upgrade were expecting to see a brighter light, not just a whiter light. This isnt the first time this debate has come up and I'm not the first one to hold the opinion that I do.

When people think of a headlight "upgrade" they automatically think BRIGHTER, not WHITER, regardless of what the package may say.
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Old Sep 5, 2004 | 12:11 AM
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I'll agree in that they're whiter but I had them and I don't feel they increase visibilty enough to justify their cost.

Of course, anything's better than stock.
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Ok...you're right. I guess when everyone does a headlight upgrade all that they care about is how white the light is and not how bright the light is.

I guess all the people that are DYING to do the HID upgrades just want them for the "blue-ish" tint to them, not the brightness.

All the THOUSANDS of people who are doing the PIAA foglight upgrade are just doing it for the fun of it, not for the fact that they are twice as bright as the stock fog lights.

My statement was just simple, plain english stating that 99% of the people who did the Silverstar upgrade were expecting to see a brighter light, not just a whiter light. This isnt the first time this debate has come up and I'm not the first one to hold the opinion that I do.

When people think of a headlight "upgrade" they automatically think BRIGHTER, not WHITER, regardless of what the package may say.

I detect a bit of sarcasm here. I don't know why you are getting upset. The bulb swap from regular bulbs to Silverstars is an upgrade because you can see better with the warmer light temperature color than with the yellower stock bulbs. Wattage alone is not the only factor to consider in an upgrade.

If people change their bulbs to Silverstars and get upset that they are not any brighter, that is their fault for not reading about the bulbs and simply ASSuming they will be a miracle bulb.

To answer your comment about HID, you would be surprised at the sheer number of people want HID bulbs because they are "in" and "cool" and "bluish" looking and not for any better headlight performance. It's an image thing with probably well more than half of the people who are buying them.

Yes, the PIAA fog upgrade is done for the brightness - but it is also sold that way and marketed that way. Not sure where you are pulling all these other comments from, but we were only discussing the Silverstars and not HID or PIAA fogs or any other upgrades.

Your comments prove that you were expecting something that was never advertised and thus are comparing the result to a false and assumed expectation. If you just read the information presented to you, you will see that nobody ever advertised the Silverstars as being a whole lot brighter than other bulbs. The fact that 99% of other people (I think your numbers are a bit high, but let's assume for a second) were "expecting to see a brighter light" only means that a whole lot of people had false expectations just like you. Everyone who thought this should read better

Before you respond and get really angry for no reason, let's remember this is a factual discussion and not a personal bashing contest. We don't need the sarcasm, either
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Originally Posted by Redshift
I detect a bit of sarcasm here.
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Before you respond and get really angry for no reason, let's remember this is a factual discussion and not a personal bashing contest. We don't need the sarcasm, either
My original response was simply one with my opinion, nothing more, nothing less. Last time I checked that was still allowed.

Imagine all this heaping praise for the Silverstars coming from a Silverstar vendor.

Oh yeah...and by the way...here is a quote from the Silverstar info listed on YOUR web page.

SYLVANIA's SilverStar is the brightest, 100% street legal halogen on the road- burning cleaner and crisper, with a white-hot intensity that will set you and your machine apart.
Isnt that advertising them to be brighter??? Or is that an ASSumption on my part.

Brightest

SilverStar shines with greater luminance than other halogens.
Whats that first word??? Brightest? hmmmmm

http://www.pfyc.com/store/merchant.m...ode=VTLIGHTING

My original comment stands....if you need to replace bulbs anyways then the Silverstars are a viable replacement. Otherwise, in no way, shape or form can ANYONE justify taking out 4 perfectly good bulbs and spending $90 on a set of new Silverstars.

I think my opinion is clear....I'm done now.
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Old Sep 5, 2004 | 12:38 AM
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I thought the whiter/bluish tint gave you 4 to 7 RWHP

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Old Sep 5, 2004 | 12:41 AM
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That advertising comes from Sylvania directly and they specifically mention luminance. The luminance on the Silverstars is higher than other halogens. Not an assumption, a true statement. That does not necessarily mean they are going to be noticeably brighter to everyone who assumes they will.

The statement that they are the brightest street legal halogen is also true. It just happens that that wattage is the same as the other road-legal halogens - 55W low, 60W high beam. Once again, factual, and true.

Imagine all this heaping praise for the Silverstars coming from a Silverstar vendor.
Yes, I will highly praise items we sell because I choose what I think is the best value out there when I select what products to carry. Would it make sense for me to not praise items that I sell? Some vendors will blindly praise anything in their store. I personally select most of the products that we carry and we only carry the best of the stuff out there. Why shouldn't I praise it? Almost everyone carries Silverstars. Why is that? Probably because they are good for the money.

Maybe tomorrow will be a happier day for ya. Have a great night
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Old Sep 5, 2004 | 12:46 AM
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This is almost as much fun as the M6 vs A4 threads.
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Old Sep 5, 2004 | 12:50 AM
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How this turned out to be a bash fest I'll never know. I guess that'll teach carlb3 to post his experience.

Here's my experience with Silverstars. I use one on my motorcycle. And I love it. It absolutely gives me better vision at night, and much more visibility to other drivers, and on a bike that is critical. The stock yellow ****-ant bulb was nothing compared to this thing. So I guess it is partly to do with what you're baselining against. The stock bulbs in the Vette aren't bad by OEM standard. But I will definitely swap out to Silverstars when the time comes. IMHO they are worth every penny. And they seem to last quite a while too, as I've had them on my bike for almost a year now. Being a motorcycle I run brights during the day, and lows at night so I get a ton of use out of both modes. Still running strong.
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Originally Posted by 2k1 Vette
Ok...you're right. I guess when everyone does a headlight upgrade all that they care about is how white the light is and not how bright the light is.

I guess all the people that are DYING to do the HID upgrades just want them for the "blue-ish" tint to them, not the brightness.

All the THOUSANDS of people who are doing the PIAA foglight upgrade are just doing it for the fun of it, not for the fact that they are twice as bright as the stock fog lights.

My statement was just simple, plain english stating that 99% of the people who did the Silverstar upgrade were expecting to see a brighter light, not just a whiter light. This isnt the first time this debate has come up and I'm not the first one to hold the opinion that I do.

When people think of a headlight "upgrade" they automatically think BRIGHTER, not WHITER, regardless of what the package may say.
A little testy, aren't we? BTW - I bet you can't find more than a couple hundred vette owners who have upgraded their lighting, Silverstars included.

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I put Silverstars in my old '95 C-4 before i sold it....and the difference was stunning. Of course they may have been the stock bulbs i changed, so thats not surpizing. Then i did my Tacoma- i'm just as happy. Plan to put one in my Harley as well. Haven't done my '04 Z since i don't really drive it much at night....and they seem reasonably bright. Anyone who thinks they're no better then stock'ers have never tried a set. In the expensive world of mods....what's $90?? Happy Silverstar customer here.
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Originally Posted by sxe60
This is almost as much fun as the M6 vs A4 threads.

Or coupe vs. vert vs. FRC.

Does anyone have the candlelight power each puts out? Stock vs. Silverstars? Wouldn't that answer a lot of the questions?
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Well Im going to call it the way I see it and there is no reason to be an a$$ about it. As stated, most people like the whiter light contrary to your statement. No one else came on here talking crap but instead were offering insightful information. There is a difference in having negative feedback versus a negative attitude. I'm not speaking for everyone else but I would rather hear feedback rather than bashing.
Hey Carb, I bet you cant wait for the nightdriving now. Well let me rephrase it again since anytime is fun to drive a corvette. I bet you like driving it just as much as during the day now. Anyway, congrats on the new mod.
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Talk about opening a can of worms....what is the saying, "Opinions are like...." ah you know the rest.

anyway, I am impressed with them, I can see better with them installed. maybe it is a placebo effect, I doubt it though.

and for the record, I did not buy them from a forum vendor, so don't think I am trying to drum up business for them.
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