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Old Sep 13, 2004 | 09:48 PM
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Hello out there - Here is the dilemma. I had a bad oil pressure sending unit, since I am not the greatest at the DIY stuff, I took it to the dealer. ( ..... I know....) they fixed it.
I called GM - to see if there was a recall on this item, but there has not been one. I asked "Then why so many people are having a problem with this part??", no great answer. I was looking for them to help cover some of the repair cost of the item (Originally got the idea to call GM from RedRider). They would not help me with the costs of the repair because I was told it was a normal wear and tear part, and since I just bought it (July '04) it could have been a result of neglection by the last
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I told them that I have the service records on the vehicle and if they look them up they will see that it had been taken to the dealer to have everything done. (It was originally a lease vehicle when purchased)
The guy told me that if there was a recall in the future I would recieve my money back....better luck seeing a pink elephant.
I asked how do you process a recall and what makes it happen. The call that I made is a start on how they track certain problems -- if enough calls were made then they would consider it.
I see this to be a very common problem with the C5 (no matter what year).
What I am looking for are names and #'s of people to send to GM that have / had this problem. (thanks 03Ragtop for the info..gives me 1)
I want to e-mail the list to them and get the ball rolling as much as possible.
If you are interested please PM me or email me slicksilver@comcast.net
Thanks for letting me

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Old Sep 13, 2004 | 11:53 PM
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Good luck and heres a TTT for you!
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Old Sep 14, 2004 | 12:03 AM
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First I've ever heard of this one....Fuel guage , oil pressure... uhhhhh....
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Old Sep 14, 2004 | 12:06 AM
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I have not heard this being a problem. Not saying it hasn't been, just not one of the usual problems reported, at least not here...and we've managed to pick these cars apart
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Old Sep 14, 2004 | 12:25 AM
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i got a really dumb question....
what does "ttt" stand for?

im guessing its to bump the post...but does it stand for anything?

thanks
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Old Sep 14, 2004 | 12:27 AM
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To the top...
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Old Sep 14, 2004 | 12:27 AM
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to the top...bump the post was correct
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Old Sep 14, 2004 | 12:28 AM
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Also.... i got a bad oil pressure sending unit on my 97. It broke about 2 months ago...havent fixed it yet...dont quite have that money to burn right at the moment...
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Old Sep 14, 2004 | 10:00 AM
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I wish I still had the name of the woman I spoke to. GM paid for half of the oil pressure sensor repair and half of the rear diff leak OUT OF WARRANTY (my 98 has 74,000 miles on it). If I find the name of who I spoke with, I will post it for you!

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Old Sep 14, 2004 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by slicksilver11
Hello out there - Here is the dilemma. I had a bad oil pressure sending unit, since I am not the greatest at the DIY stuff, I took it to the dealer. ( ..... I know....) they fixed it.
I called GM - to see if there was a recall on this item, but there has not been one. I asked "Then why so many people are having a problem with this part??", no great answer. I was looking for them to help cover some of the repair cost of the item (Originally got the idea to call GM from RedRider). They would not help me with the costs of the repair because I was told it was a normal wear and tear part, and since I just bought it (July '04) it could have been a result of neglection by the last
owner.
I told them that I have the service records on the vehicle and if they look them up they will see that it had been taken to the dealer to have everything done. (It was originally a lease vehicle when purchased)
The guy told me that if there was a recall in the future I would recieve my money back....better luck seeing a pink elephant.
I asked how do you process a recall and what makes it happen. The call that I made is a start on how they track certain problems -- if enough calls were made then they would consider it.
I see this to be a very common problem with the C5 (no matter what year).
What I am looking for are names and #'s of people to send to GM that have / had this problem. (thanks 03Ragtop for the info..gives me 1)
I want to e-mail the list to them and get the ball rolling as much as possible.
If you are interested please PM me or email me slicksilver@comcast.net
Thanks for letting me
I am about to replace the THIRD sensor in my 97 Coupe. Bought it used and it was bad, the first one lasted a month and a half, the second eleven months, and now going for the THIRD one. Whoever supplies these thing to GM needs to learn something about quality control.

I'll gladly E-mail my name and number to you, hopefully something will get done about the problem!!!
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Old Sep 14, 2004 | 05:45 PM
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Are you talking about the sensor that tellz you "LOW OIL LEVEL" - oh yeah, my 97 has the problem. But it is only like $100 to change the sensor. I ain't changin it, cause I know it is not going to fix the problem and I check my oil weekly.
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Old Sep 14, 2004 | 07:43 PM
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Because of the great information on this forum, I noticed the oil pressure sensor was bad on the car before I bought it. The prevous owner had it replaced at the dealer and it was very expensive because they had to remove the intake manifold to gain access. I think I still have the receipt it that will help this effort.
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Old Sep 14, 2004 | 08:14 PM
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Sadly for me, your post comes at a prefect time. I have been dealing with GM service people trying to resolve a problem I had. I have come to the conclusion, that I have to swear off GM products. I love my car, but it's like having a terminally sick pet: I will enjoy evey minute I have with it, but when that day comes, I will say thanks for the memories, now go in peace! (Or pieces). I know my complaint may not be the biggest issue GM has to deal with, but in good business, you don't loose one customer, you loose 1000 (because everyone talks). I hope you get your issue resolved, but it's so sad to me that an Icon like the Vette is markerted and held so highly, but getting a problem resolved is all about dollars ... and Absolutly no sense - not cents. Thanks GM. We can see our business is appreciated.
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Old Sep 14, 2004 | 11:48 PM
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Do you really think you will be treated any better by another mfg? They all do the same thing. Even the high reliability one.
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Old Sep 15, 2004 | 08:55 AM
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Slicksilver - email sent
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Old Sep 15, 2004 | 09:32 AM
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mine's been bad for about 3 weeks now... I'll fix it eventually.
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I've seen other posts on this problem, but never had it myself. Good luck getting GM to pay attention.
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Old Sep 15, 2004 | 01:47 PM
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At the risk of being flamed, beaten, drawn and quartered - I'm going to dissagree.

You basically bought a six year-old car with apparently no extended warranty and now have a mechanical problem which is also apparently your first so you want to try to start a recall on an entire product line for your problem?

Anyone who buys any used car assumes the risk unless given a written warranty for a price. It doesn't matter if it is a Corvette or Yugo. It is a USED car and no represented as being new or under a warranty.

I've had a number of the common problems, window not working, both headlight actuators gone, column locks and while I wasn't aware of specific problems at the time of purchase - I did know I was assuming any repair costs as part of the savings for buying a used car.

Sorry, but I don't see this as the manufacturer's problem. You saved money by buying a used car and assumed the risk without an extended warranty.
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Old Sep 15, 2004 | 08:31 PM
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CAJUN - No I am not trying to start a recall for the hell of it. I see a common problem that doesn't make any sense. If it was a window or something of that nature, I live with it. How much wear and tear can be put on sensor?? It is a common theme throughout this forum and I feel that it should be addressed with GM.
maybe it is who they buy from, or maybe it is them. I don't know??
Also, if the part was defective - no matter what or when I bought the car (used or new) it should be covered.
I would agree with you if it was only a few people, but it seems like a lot.
The column lock became a recall, only after people spoke up and it became a problem that GM fessed up to.
Also, see previous posts about sensors.

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I think I understand your concerns and frustration. Like I said, I've had the window actuator problem, and the column lock plus recall, gas gauge problem, and I'm currently working on fixing my second headlight actuator gear. All of which have (as I understand it) had numerous occurrences and more than the oil sending unit. All of which (except the column lock) I've paid to have fixed.

However, with my luck - I wouldn't be surprised if my oil pressure sending sensor/unit went out shortly. But unless there are significant numbers and physical evidence to substantiate defective parts in the 200,000 or so C5s built - I just don't think a recall on either a six year-old car or in my case a five year-old car is realistic. It would also seem that in this amount of time any real defect would have been substantiated long ago.

I think many of us (including myself) expect these cars to have both a certain degree of perfection and that they will last forever. Neither is true. Even if a thousand people make a post here that their oil pressure sensor failed - that's still only a .05% failure rate.

Again, I understand (and can agree with) your frustration and aggravation with commonly failing parts. But I think the reality is we bought used cars and outside extended warranties - we just have to pay to get them fixed.
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