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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 10:30 AM
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I have about 22K on my vette, brakes are squeaking. Is it normal to get new brakes at 22K? Seems a bit low to me. Although this would be a good excuse to get those drilled/slotted rotors...

Also, how difficult is it to replace my rotors and pads myself?

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Dallas, not sure if its time, but I did them myself yesterday....I have some instructions that PATCHES emailed me that would be very helpful....let me know if you need them.
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Yes, PLEASE, those instructions would be very appriciated.

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My email is Taylor99ss@hotmail.com
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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 11:05 AM
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You should have them in your email...
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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 11:18 AM
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You should have them in your email...
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Can you also send me the brake install info? Thank you.

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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 11:32 AM
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Should be in your email...
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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 11:38 AM
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Please send the instructions to me also. I am changing mine after 51K miles.

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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 01:21 PM
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Please send them to me also. Thanks!

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The point at which you need new brakes depends on how you use the car. I took my original GM pads off when I installed my rotors this past January, but the pads still looked like new and they had about 20K on them. If you are going to install new rotors, you may want to consider new pads also.
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Please send to me also Thanks!

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Originally Posted by mdbennes
Dallas, not sure if its time, but I did them myself yesterday....I have some instructions that PATCHES emailed me that would be very helpful....let me know if you need them.

hope you dont mind sending another out

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Me to if you don't mind. Thanks.

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Originally Posted by mdbennes
Dallas, not sure if its time, but I did them myself yesterday....I have some instructions that PATCHES emailed me that would be very helpful....let me know if you need them.
mdbennes, If you have time, how about one for me. Many Thanks!!
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Originally Posted by mdbennes
Dallas, not sure if its time, but I did them myself yesterday....I have some instructions that PATCHES emailed me that would be very helpful....let me know if you need them.
If you would be so kind to send me the instructions as well.

Thanks for your time.

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Should be in your email...

Already did my rotors/pads/lines/fluids etc. etc.

GO NOLES!!!!
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Old Sep 18, 2004 | 11:33 AM
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Please send the brake replacement instructions to me, also.

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Brake Pads Replacement - Front

Removal Procedure
Inspect the fluid level in the brake master cylinder reservoir.
If the brake fluid level is midway between the maximum-full point and the minimum allowable level, no brake fluid needs to be removed from the reservoir before proceeding.
If the brake fluid level is higher than midway between the maximum-full point and the minimum allowable level, remove brake fluid to the midway point before proceeding.
Raise and suitably support the vehicle. Refer to Lifting and Jacking the Vehicle in General Information.
Remove the tire and wheel assembly. Refer to Tire and Wheel Removal and Installation in Tires and Wheels.
Hand tighten a wheel lug nut to a wheel stud to secure the rotor to the hub.


Install large C-clamp over the body of the brake caliper with the C-clamp ends against the rear of the caliper body and against the outboard brake pad.
Tighten the C-clamp evenly until the caliper pistons are compressed into the caliper bores enough to allow the caliper to slide past the brake rotor.
Remove the C-clamp from the caliper.


Remove the upper brake caliper guide pin bolt.
Notice
Support the brake caliper with heavy mechanic's wire, or equivalent, whenever it is separated from it's mount and the hydraulic flexible brake hose is still connected. Failure to support the caliper in this manner will cause the flexible brake hose to bear the weight of the caliper, which may cause damage to the brake hose and in turn may cause a brake fluid leak.

Pivot the brake caliper body downward and secure the caliper out of the way with heavy mechanic's wire or equivalent; ensure that there is no tension on the hydraulic brake flexible hose. Do NOT disconnect the hydraulic brake flexible hose from the caliper.
Remove the brake pads from the caliper bracket.
Remove and inspect the brake pad retainers from the caliper bracket.

Installation Procedure
Inspect the caliper slide boots for cuts, tears, or deterioration. If damaged, replace the slides and the boots. Refer to Disc Brake Hardware Replacement - Front .


Install large C-clamp (1) over the body of the brake caliper (3) with the C-clamp ends against the rear of the caliper body and against an old inboard brake pad (2) or a wood block installed against the caliper pistons.
Tighten the C-clamp (1) evenly until the caliper pistons are compressed completely into the caliper bores.
Remove the C-clamp and the old brake pad or wood block from the caliper.


Install the brake pad retainers to the caliper bracket.
Install the brake pads to the caliper bracket. The brake pad wear sensor, mounted on the inboard brake pad, must be positioned so that it is in the trailing position during forward rotation of the brake rotor.
Pivot the brake caliper upward, over the brake pads and into the caliper bracket.
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Use the correct fastener in the correct location. Replacement fasteners must be the correct part number for that application. Fasteners requiring replacement or fasteners requiring the use of thread locking compound or sealant are identified in the service procedure. Do not use paints, lubricants, or corrosion inhibitors on fasteners or fastener joint surfaces unless specified. These coatings affect fastener torque and joint clamping force and may damage the fastener. Use the correct tightening sequence and specifications when installing fasteners in order to avoid damage to parts and systems.

Install the upper brake caliper guide pin bolt. Tighten
Tighten the brake caliper guide pin bolt to 31 N*m (23 lb ft).

Install the tire and wheel assembly. Refer to Tire and Wheel Removal and Installation in Tires and Wheels.
Lower the vehicle.
With the engine OFF, gradually apply the brake pedal to approximately 2/3 of its travel distance.
Slowly release the brake pedal.
Wait 15 seconds, then repeat steps 11-12 until a firm brake pedal apply is obtained; this will properly seat the brake caliper pistons and brake pads.
Fill the brake master cylinder reservoir to the proper level. Refer to Master Cylinder Reservoir Filling in Hydraulic Brakes.
Burnish the pads and rotors. Refer to Burnishing Pads and Rotors .
Brake Pads Replacement - Rear

Removal Procedure
Inspect the fluid level in the brake master cylinder reservoir.
If the brake fluid level is midway between the maximum-full point and the minimum allowable level, no brake fluid needs to be removed from the reservoir before proceeding.
Raise and suitably support the vehicle. Refer to Lifting and Jacking the Vehicle in General Information.
Remove the tire and wheel assembly. Refer to Tire and Wheel Removal and Installation in Tires and Wheels.
Hand tighten a wheel lug nut to a wheel stud to secure the rotor to the hub.


Install a large C-clamp over the body of the brake caliper with the C-clamp ends against the rear of the caliper body and against the outboard brake pad.
Tighten the C-clamp until the caliper piston is compressed into the caliper bore enough to allow the caliper to slide past the brake rotor.
Remove the C-clamp from the caliper.


Remove the brake caliper guide pin bolts.
Notice
Support the brake caliper with heavy mechanic's wire, or equivalent, whenever it is separated from it's mount and the hydraulic flexible brake hose is still connected. Failure to support the caliper in this manner will cause the flexible brake hose to bear the weight of the caliper, which may cause damage to the brake hose and in turn may cause a brake fluid leak.

Remove the brake caliper from the caliper bracket and support the caliper out of the way with heavy mechanic's wire or equivalent; ensure that there is no tension on the hydraulic brake flexible hose. Do NOT disconnect the hydraulic brake flexible hose from the caliper.
Remove the brake pads from the caliper bracket.
Remove and inspect the brake pad retainers from the caliper bracket.

Installation Procedure
Inspect the caliper slide boots for cuts, tears, or deterioration. If damaged, replace the slides and the boots. Refer to Disc Brake Hardware Replacement - Rear .


Install a large C-clamp (1) over the body of the brake caliper (3) with the C-clamp ends against the rear of the caliper body and against an old inboard brake pad (2) or a wood block installed against the caliper piston.
Tighten the C-clamp (1) until the caliper piston is compressed completely into the caliper bore.
Remove the C-clamp and the old brake pad or wood block from the caliper.


Install the brake pad retainers to the caliper bracket.
Install the brake pads to the caliper bracket. The brake pad wear sensor, mounted on the inboard brake pad, must be positioned so that it is in the trailing position during forward rotation of the brake rotor.
Install the brake caliper to the caliper bracket.
Notice
Use the correct fastener in the correct location. Replacement fasteners must be the correct part number for that application. Fasteners requiring replacement or fasteners requiring the use of thread locking compound or sealant are identified in the service procedure. Do not use paints, lubricants, or corrosion inhibitors on fasteners or fastener joint surfaces unless specified. These coatings affect fastener torque and joint clamping force and may damage the fastener. Use the correct tightening sequence and specifications when installing fasteners in order to avoid damage to parts and systems.

Install the brake caliper guide pin bolts. Tighten
Tighten the brake caliper guide pin bolts to 31 N*m (23 lb ft).

Install the tire and wheel assembly. Refer to Tire and Wheel Removal and Installation in Tires and Wheels.
Lower the vehicle.
With the engine OFF, gradually apply the brake pedal to approximately 2/3 of its travel distance.
Slowly release the brake pedal.
Wait 15 seconds, then repeat steps 11-12 until a firm brake pedal apply is obtained; this will properly seat the brake caliper pistons and brake pads.
Fill the brake master cylinder reservoir to the proper level. Refer to Master Cylinder Reservoir Filling in Hydraulic Brakes.
Burnish the pads and rotors. Refer to Burnishing Pads and Rotors .
Brake Rotor Replacement - Front
Tools Required

J 41013 Rotor Resurfacing Kit
J 42450-A Wheel Hub Resurfacing Kit

Removal Procedure




Raise and suitably support the vehicle. Refer to Lifting and Jacking the Vehicle in General Information.
Remove the tire and wheel assembly. Refer to Tire and Wheel Removal and Installation in Tires and Wheels.
Notice
Support the brake caliper with heavy mechanic's wire, or equivalent, whenever it is separated from it's mount and the hydraulic flexible brake hose is still connected. Failure to support the caliper in this manner will cause the flexible brake hose to bear the weight of the caliper, which may cause damage to the brake hose and in turn may cause a brake fluid leak.

Remove the brake caliper and the caliper mounting bracket as an assembly from the suspension knuckle and support the assembly with heavy mechanic's wire, or equivalent; ensure that there is no tension on the hydraulic brake flexible hose. Do NOT disconnect the hydraulic brake flexible hose from the caliper. Refer to Brake Caliper Bracket Replacement - Front .
Remove the brake rotor.

Installation Procedure




Important
Whenever the rotor has been separated from the wheel bearing flange, clean any rust or contaminants from the wheel bearing flange and the brake rotor mating surfaces. Failure to do this may result in increased lateral runout of the brake rotor, and brake pulsation.

Use the J 42450-A in order to clean any rust or corrosion from the wheel hub flange.
Use the J 41013 in order to clean any rust or corrosion from the rotor mating surface.
Install the brake rotor over the wheel studs onto the wheel bearing flange.
Install the brake caliper and the brake caliper bracket as an assembly to the suspension knuckle. Refer to Brake Caliper Bracket Replacement - Front .
Install the tire and wheel assembly. Refer to Tire and Wheel Removal and Installation in Tire and Wheels.
Lower the vehicle.
Burnish the pads and rotors. Refer to Burnishing Pads and Rotors .
Brake Rotor Replacement - Rear
Tools Required

J 41013 Rotor Resurfacing Kit
J 42450-A Wheel Hub Resurfacing Kit

Removal Procedure
Check to be sure that the park brake is released.
Raise and suitably support the vehicle. Refer to Lifting and Jacking the Vehicle in General Information.
Remove the tire and wheel assembly. Refer to Tire and Wheel Removal and Installation in Tires and Wheels.


Disconnect the park brake cable from the park brake apply lever.
Notice
Support the brake caliper with heavy mechanic's wire, or equivalent, whenever it is separated from it's mount and the hydraulic flexible brake hose is still connected. Failure to support the caliper in this manner will cause the flexible brake hose to bear the weight of the caliper, which may cause damage to the brake hose and in turn may cause a brake fluid leak.

Remove the brake caliper and the caliper mounting bracket as an assembly from the suspension knuckle and support the assembly with heavy mechanic's wire, or equivalent; ensure that there is no tension on the hydraulic brake flexible hose. Do NOT disconnect the hydraulic brake flexible hose from the caliper. Refer to Brake Caliper Bracket Replacement - Rear .
Remove the brake rotor. Do not force the rotor off. If the rotor is difficult to remove, ease it off by gently rotating it as you pull outward.



Installation Procedure
Important
Whenever the rotor has been separated from the wheel bearing flange, clean any rust or contaminants from the wheel bearing flange and the brake rotor mating surfaces. Failure to do this may result in increased lateral runout of the brake rotor, and brake pulsation.

Use the J 42450-A in order to clean any rust or corrosion from the wheel hub surface.
Use the J 41013 in order to clean any rust or corrosion from the rotor mating surface.


Connect the park brake cable to the park brake apply lever.
Adjust the clearance of the parking brake shoe to the drum-in-hat portion of the brake rotor. Refer to Park Brake Adjustment in Park Brake.


Install the brake rotor over the wheel studs onto the wheel bearing flange.
Install the brake caliper and the brake caliper bracket as an assembly to the suspension knuckle. Refer to Brake Caliper Bracket Replacement - Rear .
Inspect the operation of the park brake. Adjust the park brake if necessary. Refer to Park Brake Adjustment in Park Brake.
Install the tire and wheel assembly. Refer to Tire and Wheel Removal and Installation in Tire and Wheels.
Lower the vehicle.
Burnish the pads and rotors. Refer to Burnishing Pads and Rotors .
Burnishing Pads and Rotors
Road Test Safety Caution
Road test a vehicle under safe conditions and while obeying all traffic laws. Do not attempt any maneuvers that could jeopardize vehicle control. Failure to adhere to these precautions could lead to serious personal injury and vehicle damage.

Burnishing the brake pads and brake rotors is necessary in order to ensure that the braking surfaces are properly prepared after service has been performed on the disc brake system.

This procedure should be performed whenever the disc brake rotors have been refinished or replaced, and/or whenever the disc brake pads have been replaced.

Select a smooth road with little or no traffic.
Accelerate the vehicle to 48 km/h (30 mph).
Important
Use care to avoid overheating the brakes while performing this step.

Using moderate to firm pressure, apply the brakes to bring the vehicle to a stop. Do not allow the brakes to lock.
Repeat steps 2 and 3 until approximately 20 stops have been completed. Allow sufficient cooling periods between stops in order to properly burnish the brake pads and rotors.
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Originally Posted by mdbennes
Dallas, not sure if its time, but I did them myself yesterday....I have some instructions that PATCHES emailed me that would be very helpful....let me know if you need them.
Hi,

Awaiting my 2000 Vette to be shipped to the UK . It has done just under 22k miles so would be extremely grateful if you could forward the instructions to b.cooper33@ntlworld.com

Thanks a bunch
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Just found your full instructions further down the page - thanks

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