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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 10:34 AM
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Any suggestions on removing swirl marks caused from waxing with a rotary buffer?
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 11:20 AM
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Go to POORBOYS.COM website and get some of their SSR products...they work awesome...

I use their stuff on all my cars and ones I detail as well...
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Which one do you use?

I see poorboys had 3 diff SSR's.
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Originally Posted by dstchur
Any suggestions on removing swirl marks caused from waxing with a rotary buffer?
which way are the swirls running clockwise or counter clockwise
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I use a product called Scratch Out (made by Adam's Polishes) that works well to get minor scratches out of the paint. Haven't really tried it on swirl marks, but it works well on the scratches. Detailing Dude could probably give you some very good advice.
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 01:23 PM
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Go to www.autopia.org. You will find a wealth of info on this subject along with general paint maintenance.
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depends how deep they are.
You will need to buy a orbital buffer to get them out.
There are numerous products out there made from numerous quality companies.
Ican only speak to Meguairs but others such as Zaino also have items.
1. What you want to do is wash and clay to make sure the area is completely clean.
2.Then start mild and get more aggresive as needed to remove.
Use an orbital with ScratchX
3. If this does not work move to something that is more aggresive but with the understanding that you are cutting into your clear to do this.
Light scratch remover , then medium scratch remover with an aggresive pad and then ONLY if you have to move to diamond cut.
4. you will now have to reverse everything above..... what you have done is scratch the surface more by using these products to remove the swirls..... so when you reverse it makes the scratches lighter and lighter until they can no longer be seen with the eye.
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1-800-854-8073 and ask for Mike Phillips , Paul Ruiz or Greg Stahl and explain . Tell them I told you to call and they will get you what you need
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What I was referring to in the original post was caused by using using an orbital buffer to wax the car. The "swirl" can only be seen in direct sunlight when looking at the surface at an angle other than perpedicular. If car is not in direct concentrated light they can not be seen. I am afraid if I apply any more product with the buffer I will be running into the same problem. Please advise.
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Go to the Car Care/Products section and you will get a wealth of information there. Just read through all the threads and you will see many answers to your questions.
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Originally Posted by tT-REXXX
which way are the swirls running clockwise or counter clockwise
Yours run? Mine don't even walk.
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Originally Posted by dstchur
What I was referring to in the original post was caused by using using an orbital buffer to wax the car. The "swirl" can only be seen in direct sunlight when looking at the surface at an angle other than perpedicular. If car is not in direct concentrated light they can not be seen. I am afraid if I apply any more product with the buffer I will be running into the same problem. Please advise.
I would guess that they were caused with a Rotary buffer not an orbital. Orbitals will not cause this type of damage unless the pad was dirty
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I had the same situation and was lucky enough to be able to remove them by hand using Scratch X. I will be investing in the Porter Cable Orbital Buffer in the near future though for polishing.
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the first step is to wash your car with dawn to get all the old wax off. then you clay the car and then wax it. It will look like glass. Trust me.
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A clay bar will not remove swirls, only contaminents in the paint. That being said, a clay bar is a good start but you may need to follow up with different products to remove the swirls.
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Originally Posted by LiquidDI
the first step is to wash your car with dawn to get all the old wax off. then you clay the car and then wax it. It will look like glass. Trust me.
I agree you should wash and clay the car first...using dawn will get your car clean but it does not remove the wax like everyone thinks.
Try this...take a Crayon and write on the hood of your DD wash it with dawn....what happens??? Nothing it is still there maybe a little lighter but it is there.
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 07:35 PM
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go to www.griotsgarage.com and check out their products. You need a random orbital, not a rotary polisher. The Porter Cable from Griots works great as I've used it on my black C4 with outstanding results (using Griots products as well).
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 07:59 PM
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Damn... all these helpful hints... some good, some not so good.

Claybaring won't remove swirl marks. After you wax your car, you need a swirl remover. If you use a buffer, you must use a foam waffle pad. If you are doing it by hand, get some 3M hand glaze.

The very best thing you can use is some 3M "fill n glaze" if you can still find it. It's around but hard to find. In either case, you can use both by hand and they'll remove your swirl marks.

As one member mentioned, it wouldn't hurt to use some Dawn soap and wash the car and then wax it. It's a good start.

Mark
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 09:54 PM
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Dstchur, many good suggestions below. 3M hand glaze suggested by MY Red C4 (below) is an easy way to try to fix your marks. I have used it on my black coupe and it works perfectly. Hope this helps.

Bob
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Clay bar...OMG, not the wretched CLAY BAR!

I had some idiot back into my '04 vert and her wonderful Ford Taurus left distinguishable horizontal plastic scratches on my rear bumper. My nephew had a RANDOM ORBITAL buffer because he used to work at a high end used car lot so we first used Mequires scratch remover but there wasn't enough ummmph to even touch the scratch. I was a nervous wreck because I was worried about going through the clear coat so I avoided anything harsh. I finally gave up and then whipped out Meguires 9 and put a little more pressure on the RANDOM ORBITAL buffer. You cannot tell it was ever hit by another car! I was absolutely astonished that the orbital buffer did NOT damage the clear coat nor cause additional scratches. It looks just as it did 6 months ago when I took delivery of the vehicle.

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