'black box' in '04s?
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'black box' in '04s?
I read an article on fox news that GM put 'black boxes' or EDR's into every car for '04. Here is the URL for the article.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,132056,00.html
Apparently it records speed, brake pressure, seat belt use, etc. For you guys with 04's did you know this was on your car?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,132056,00.html
Apparently it records speed, brake pressure, seat belt use, etc. For you guys with 04's did you know this was on your car?
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As far as I know all the C5's have it. It's behind the centre dash panel if my memory serves me right. I am sure others will chime in with the correct answer.
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Originally Posted by Donovan 572
I wonder where it is? I saw something on TV about this sort of thing and the one they were showing was behind the air bag.
On the vette I think it is behind the radio. I think it has been in the C5 right from the start. Before you try to disconnect the black box you can't it is part of the airbag system.
This has been discussed numerous times, try a search to find more threads about the black box
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GM have been using this black box widely for some time although I don't believe it's in my 1998 Z28 and believe it is in the 99's. The idea was to use such information to analyse accidents but I understand that there is a case ongoing where the Police have extracted the incriminating evidence (and it is very incriminating) and the argument continues about the legal use of such information.
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Well, as Zilla suggested I did a search and found lots of info on the blackbox. It looks like GM has been installing them since 1994. They were first installed in Camaros in 1996 and have been in Corvettes since 1997.
It appears that most of the boxes record the last 5 seconds of data before an air bag deployment or in some cases a "near" air bag deployment. After an air bag deployment the crash data is permanently recorded on a e-prom inside the blackbox.
Not only do the courts use the info against you, your insurance company will use it against you too. It shows all the things they would want to know including your speed and if you were wearing your seat belt (could they try to deny medical someday for not wearing your seatbelt?). If the insurance company gets ahold of your car you can bet they will read it. Most insurance companies have the software and all they have to do is plug the box into their laptop.
In the C5 the box is located...
"Behind accessory trim plate, under heater and AC control".
Here is a pic of it in a 2001 Cadillac...
It appears that most of the boxes record the last 5 seconds of data before an air bag deployment or in some cases a "near" air bag deployment. After an air bag deployment the crash data is permanently recorded on a e-prom inside the blackbox.
Not only do the courts use the info against you, your insurance company will use it against you too. It shows all the things they would want to know including your speed and if you were wearing your seat belt (could they try to deny medical someday for not wearing your seatbelt?). If the insurance company gets ahold of your car you can bet they will read it. Most insurance companies have the software and all they have to do is plug the box into their laptop.
In the C5 the box is located...
"Behind accessory trim plate, under heater and AC control".
Here is a pic of it in a 2001 Cadillac...
Last edited by Donovan 572; Sep 29, 2004 at 03:58 AM.
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I knew it was in mine and have heard that police/insurance companies have used the data in accident cases. I would imagine that more and more data will be gathered on furture cars.
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My understanding that at least legally, they must have a court order to have it read (although if the insurance company has access to it for any repairs, I wouldn't be suprised if they read it illegally, then forced the issue to have it read under the guise of "suspicion").
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To see what cars have black boxes check out this link:
http://www.harristechnical.com/cdr2.htm
I was surprised to find out even my '97 Tahoe has one.
http://www.harristechnical.com/cdr2.htm
I was surprised to find out even my '97 Tahoe has one.
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Originally Posted by lemansbleu2004
My understanding that at least legally, they must have a court order to have it read (although if the insurance company has access to it for any repairs, I wouldn't be suprised if they read it illegally, then forced the issue to have it read under the guise of "suspicion").
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