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Old Nov 19, 2004 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by red97vette
supposidly onstar can listen into your car whenever they want....
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Old Nov 19, 2004 | 08:30 AM
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Had Onstar on my Denali, paid the fee's and never used it.
Onstar is on my Escalade and I never activated it.
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Old Nov 19, 2004 | 09:13 AM
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Never offered it on the C5 because:

a)Very few blondes drive vettes, no need to worry about them calling OnStar and telling them they've locked themselves in the car.

b)C5 owners pride themselves on how their cars look. Don't want to have that ugly On Star antenna like on the C6

c)Satellites have problem tracking cars that run in the triple digits.

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Old Nov 19, 2004 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Y2Kvert4me
They do now. It is an option on the 2005 Corvette.

It was never a C5 option, not sure why, but I wouldn't want it anyways.

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Old Nov 19, 2004 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by MyBlueC5
Never offered it on the C5 because:

a)Very few blondes drive vettes, no need to worry about them calling OnStar and telling them they've locked themselves in the car.

b)C5 owners pride themselves on how their cars look. Don't want to have that ugly On Star antenna like on the C6

c)Satellites have problem tracking cars that run in the triple digits.

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I heard the blonde OnStar skit on the radio as well - very funny

Though I think the "tumor" bump on the C6 and other vehicles is from the XM antenna - the Onstar being built into the rear view mirror.
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Old Nov 19, 2004 | 03:50 PM
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No BIG BROTHER ... thanks!
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Old Nov 19, 2004 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by MalaysianMenace
Though I think the "tumor" bump on the C6 and other vehicles is from the XM antenna - the Onstar being built into the rear view mirror.
Aww man, don't ruin my already stupid joke...LOL

Thanks for the clarification though.



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Old Nov 19, 2004 | 04:04 PM
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I have had onstar on my last three SUVs...great concept...but the company has been a big let down. They dont stand behind their product. There also s**k bigtime when it comes time to try to locate a STOLEN product. If it didnt come free for the first year on my 04 Trailblazer , I wouldnt have it!.....
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Old Nov 19, 2004 | 05:01 PM
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On Star was offered on models which would be used to covered longer distances/families; sedans, SUV's, etc....Vettes don't fit the profile of long distance travelers.....
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Old Nov 19, 2004 | 05:13 PM
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I am considering getting indoor plumbing.... call me old fashion, but your not suppose to poop where you live.
If I had on star in the outhouse they could hear me play music.
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Old Nov 19, 2004 | 06:12 PM
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Main reasons On-star was not offered in the Corvette, until the C6, was the integration of the system to the vehicle. The On-star module is integrated to the BCM/Radio/GM High-Speed Internal LAN system, and this not only requires revisions to all the major wiring harness, but also requires some modification to some of the computers and radio in the vehicle.
Information is fed into the on-star module (called a vehicle communications interface module) and the module also outputs commands to some of the on-board computers via the GM LAN system. This allows
- the doors to be remotely locked/unlocked,
- outbound call to on-star assistance center if the air bags are deployed,
- On-star to read your DTC codes
- On-star to track your vehicle, but only if a pass code number is supplied by law enforcement
- and any of the other features offered.
Also, not only does the wiring harness have to be redesigned for integration, but the call button system center has to be added (in a mirror, console, etc.), and a microphone and antenna are also required.
To update an existing car such as the C5 in its later years, is very expensive. To add on-star to a new designed vehicle as in the C6 is not that expensive.
As for theft control, it does work; however, someday the thieves will figure out which fuse to pull to disable the system, which in turn will deactivate any tracking mechanism the system offers.
In addition, for those conspiracy theorists, On-star is too short handed to sit there and track you to see where you are, or how fast you are going. Besides, they will get fired for doing so. To track a stolen car requires the law enforcement agency to give a specific code number.
Your wife cannot call on-star and ask them to find out which Hooters you are at so she can come check up on you.
As for its worth? I had it in two cars, and only activated it once on the first car. It was worthless in my opinion, since my cell phone and a good Garmin GPS would suffice. (GPS had the phone numbers and addresses of hotels at exits on the interstate, and my cell phone was used to make the reservations.) However, evidently it is not worthless to that many, since they make a lot of money on selling the service to customers.
The only nice feature is the notification if the air bags are deployed. If your air bags deploy, on-star calls the vehicle, and if no one answers, they call the emergency agency near your GPS location and have them dispatch a crew. This has saved many lives; especially for those who were in an accident on a lightly traveled road.
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Old Nov 19, 2004 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by WhiteC5Vette
In addition, for those conspiracy theorists, On-star is too short handed to sit there and track you to see where you are, or how fast you are going. Besides, they will get fired for doing so. To track a stolen car requires the law enforcement agency to give a specific code number.

I may be wrong but I could have sworn I read about a couple of lawsuits where the gov't used a warrant to keep track and listen to conversations on a drug dealer and a mob guy. It turned into a suit because it was considered invasion of privacy.

Other than it utilizes a satellite, I don't know anything about the specifics on how On Star actually works so I don't know if it's even possible.

Has anyone else heard of these or was I reading the Nat'l Enquirer again?

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Old Nov 19, 2004 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by red97vette
supposidly onstar can listen into your car whenever they want....
That would be one board, and I do mean board individual that would be listening or tracking my moves... Hope my tax dollars are being put to better use...
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Old Nov 19, 2004 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by kkr-c5
Hope my tax dollars are being put to better use...

You mean like learning why cows fart? Or paying farmers to not grow food? I'm sure the gov't would never waste our money....lol.

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Old Nov 19, 2004 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MyBlueC5
You mean like learning why cows fart? Or paying farmers to not grow food? I'm sure the gov't would never waste our money....lol.

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Now those really are two subjects that need investigated...
I'll take the second one if you take the first...
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Old Nov 19, 2004 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by kkr-c5
Now those really are two subjects that need investigated...
I'll take the second one if you take the first...
No, it's okay, I've got my dog sitting beside me. I think he ate an entire can of beans.... I don't need no stinkin' cows (literally)

Now, back to our regularily scheduled post.

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Old Nov 19, 2004 | 08:40 PM
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had it didnt use it dont want it
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Old Nov 19, 2004 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by MyBlueC5
I may be wrong but I could have sworn I read about a couple of lawsuits where the gov't used a warrant to keep track and listen to conversations on a drug dealer and a mob guy. It turned into a suit because it was considered invasion of privacy.

Other than it utilizes a satellite, I don't know anything about the specifics on how On Star actually works so I don't know if it's even possible.

Has anyone else heard of these or was I reading the Nat'l Enquirer again?

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Sounds a bit like a myth. However, Onstar can turn on your system via the satellite link (they call if an airbag goes off). Therefore, if the law was able to obtain a warrant, I'm sure onstar has to cooperate same as a phone company would.
As for the legality, a warrant to overhear a conversation on an onstar system would be the same as a warrant to tap a phone line. So, what would be the grounds for the suit? Or, are they treading new ground on the wireless communications issue?
That's why it sounds strange to me.
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Originally Posted by WhiteC5Vette
So, what would be the grounds for the suit? Or, are they treading new ground on the wireless communications issue?
That's why it sounds strange to me.
I think that is what the point was...it was new technology and I think it may have been some desperate attempt on the lawyers part to get it thrown out.

I honestly don't remember the specifics, hell, I can't remember if I read it, watched it or heard it. Perhaps it was an urban legend, I can't remember exactly.

Perhaps I'm

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Old Nov 19, 2004 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Red_Racer
Had Onstar on the '01 Buick Regal GS and never ever used the thing. My cell phone meets those needs, thank you very much...
What if your in an area and you get "No Service" What then? If you need help On Star works!
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