f*&%^#@ column lock again!!! :(
Melting Slicks
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You know the C5 world was fine before the recall when the problem was know and the clb fixed it. Now the clb is working in some cars and not in others post recall. I think the clb working or not working is occuring at the same frequency the cl before recall would lock without the clb. So what we really need to do is find a smart techy C5 owner to copy the pre-recall BCM programing and reset all the recall data to the old version. Then life would be good again. So how do we do that?
Drifting
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From: Southern NH
The quick fix to this would be to pull the fuse that clears the BCM memory location related to the CL status.
Other than that, the Magnasteer code is suspicious since it's in the same location as the CL harness - did anyone do any work under the dash lately? The Left Actuator is also in that area (dual zone related).
Oh.. BTW, the recall related reflash is to handle a corner case related to cutting fuel when the CL malfunction occurs, but the logic always allows you to start and idle the car - it only cuts the fuel at 3 MPH. The reflash handled a specific case where the battery voltage was low and the BCM may not correctly detect the CL malfunction, so it allowed the car to be driven above 3 MPH with the CL locked.
First check the wiring harness to the CLB to see if that's the problem.
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Melting Slicks
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From: Lutz FL
No work under the dash except by "trained" technicians at the dealership attempting to fix my very first column lock problem. I've tried the "quick fix" of pulling fuses...Doesn't work...which leads me to believe there is some sort of wiring issue some where in my dash/steering column.
Safety Car
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From: So Cal
Never had the steering locking, but went ahead with the recall work in Nov 04, no problems so far. Dealer reflashed the PCM and now DIC fuel range is outta wack. I feel your frustration, this should have been taken care of by GM long time ago. 
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Melting Slicks
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From: Lutz FL
Just a brief update...I dropped it off at the dealership this afternoon around 1pm. Spoke with the asst srv mgr just now, and apparently the recall work was not done properly, and also they did find a problem with a wiring harness going to the steering column which was causing the magnasteer issue. He said they may end up replacing the rack & pinion setup if the harness does not fix the magnasteer code...We will see what happens, but I feel like I am in much better hands this go around...
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I have an '02 MN6 and two weeks ago had to take it in for the dreaded leaking rear axle repair. They wanted to do the recall while my car was there but I told them I had the CLB and I didn't want anyone messing with my computer. They simply put a statement on the invoice for the warranty work stating that "customer refused recall". I then signed the invoice and that was the end of that. Do not let them mess with your computer or you will be posting the same sad stories you are seeing in this thread.
This reflashing your computer thing is only and I reinterate ONLY to protect the General's butt in the litigious society in which we live.
Another thing, when posting on a thread about CLB please identify your car as MN6 or A4 so readers can discern what should be going on regarding the recall and your car.
This reflashing your computer thing is only and I reinterate ONLY to protect the General's butt in the litigious society in which we live.
Another thing, when posting on a thread about CLB please identify your car as MN6 or A4 so readers can discern what should be going on regarding the recall and your car.
Melting Slicks
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From: Cortez, FL/Canandaigua NY (Summer)
I had a '97 and it was never part of the recall (it may have been recalled after I sold it). I learned to live with the condition. Everytime it locked I just pulled real hard down on the right side of the steering wheel with my right hand and turned the key with my left. It always worked! You can avoid having a lock-up occur if you avoid parking sideways on an incline or parking with the wheels turned. Now I have an '04 but have not had an issue. I assume that they fixed it after 2001 or so.
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From: DFW Tx
If your CLB is getting flaky or wont work right. Read my fix here.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=881814
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=881814
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St. Jude Donor '05-'06-'07-'08-'09-'10
Well I have the Harness K and it's amongst all the other things I have to install before spring. And my car isn't going in for the recall.
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I started a thread here --->http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=966197 When I picked the car up, the check engine light was on. I immediately brought the car back and told them, fix it! The next day, they told me their tech scanned the engine and found that that the second pair of O2 sensors were falling outside the factory parameters. They blamed it on the "aftermarket" program on my computer. They neglected to say, they had already performed the CL fix over a year ago, but the check engine light didn't come on them. Sooooooooooo, as I went to get the car for the second time, I was advised to bring it to a shop that had an LS1 Edit or similiar program that would allow them to turn off the check engine light. OK, so I pick up the car, turn on the ignition and ....NO CHECK ENGINE LIGHT!!!! After telling me the new re-flashed program would not allow my 'puter to "re-learn" the old settings, (I have the print-out from the tech) the 'puter re-learned the old settings and the light has not come on since. MOHO is, these Chevy techs don't know what the fck is going on and are just winging it.
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St. Jude Donor '05
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Just another reason why I need to "lock" my ECM. After dealing with my local Chevy dealership, I'd be hesitant to let them do warranty work, let alone something more serious.
Originally Posted by Double Aught
I started a thread here --->http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=966197 When I picked the car up, the check engine light was on. I immediately brought the car back and told them, fix it! The next day, they told me their tech scanned the engine and found that that the second pair of O2 sensors were falling outside the factory parameters. They blamed it on the "aftermarket" program on my computer. They neglected to say, they had already performed the CL fix over a year ago, but the check engine light didn't come on them. Sooooooooooo, as I went to get the car for the second time, I was advised to bring it to a shop that had an LS1 Edit or similiar program that would allow them to turn off the check engine light. OK, so I pick up the car, turn on the ignition and ....NO CHECK ENGINE LIGHT!!!! After telling me the new re-flashed program would not allow my 'puter to "re-learn" the old settings, (I have the print-out from the tech) the 'puter re-learned the old settings and the light has not come on since. MOHO is, these Chevy techs don't know what the fck is going on and are just winging it.
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Melting Slicks
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From: Lutz FL
TorchRedRaider - Good info you have! I may end up doing the Harness K if I start having problems again...We will see...
Honestly, the computer reprogram does not bother me...Actually I rather have it in there...After my first column lock and backing out of the parking space, and *then* realizing I couldnt turn the wheel, was a little unsettingly...I could have pulled out in the middle of traffic and been really up the creek. At least this way, you cant get very far at all before the car shuts off. If the column lock is going to fail to disengage, I dont want to be put in harms way when it happens.
Honestly, the computer reprogram does not bother me...Actually I rather have it in there...After my first column lock and backing out of the parking space, and *then* realizing I couldnt turn the wheel, was a little unsettingly...I could have pulled out in the middle of traffic and been really up the creek. At least this way, you cant get very far at all before the car shuts off. If the column lock is going to fail to disengage, I dont want to be put in harms way when it happens.
