? Diablo Predator Tuners?
Supporting Tuner
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From: ================== Houston, Texas www.englandgreen.com ================== Necessary Evil™ __________
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St. Jude Donor '05-'06-'07-'08-'09-'10-'11-'12-'13-'14
I bought one, and it's an excellent tool for the money, IMHO.
Post this thread in the C5 Scan and Tune section - you will get a lot more detailed info there about the Predator.
EG
Post this thread in the C5 Scan and Tune section - you will get a lot more detailed info there about the Predator.
EG
Instructor
Joined: Jul 2004
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From: Utah
I have it. I like it. I have the performance tune installed. I have played with the timing and air / fuel ratios a little. I reset the cooling fan on and off temps to match up wiith the 180 deg. thermostat. And I reset the tire size when I swapped out the EMT's.
The performance tune did make more power but I have only the seat of the pants dyno as proof of the improvement.
The performance tune did make more power but I have only the seat of the pants dyno as proof of the improvement.
Burning Brakes
Joined: Mar 2003
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From: Lansing MI
Here's my 2 cents.
I bought one for my Vette and wasted 200 bucks before I got smart and bought HP tuners. They screw GM owners but let FORD guys swap the units without charge. Bastages, don't deserve another dime from any GM owner till they level the playing field. That said they did change this on the 2004 model Pred's, but they F**ked everyone who bought one before that. Jeff
I bought one for my Vette and wasted 200 bucks before I got smart and bought HP tuners. They screw GM owners but let FORD guys swap the units without charge. Bastages, don't deserve another dime from any GM owner till they level the playing field. That said they did change this on the 2004 model Pred's, but they F**ked everyone who bought one before that. Jeff
Burning Brakes
Joined: Nov 2004
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From: Grafton Ohio
I agree with you G-lock. Why would you spend what is it around $4OO for a predator and have limited tuning options or spend $499 for hptuners and have unlimited tuning capabilities, forum support, and wbo2 data logging. I went with hp and I wouldnt go any other way. Hp does everything I need and then some.
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Melting Slicks
Joined: Jun 2004
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From: Newark, DE
St. Jude Donor '06
Originally Posted by BrightRed C5 SWFL
I would go with LS1 Edit before I would fork over the cash for the Predator.
Burning Brakes
Joined: Mar 2003
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From: Lansing MI
BW1-
One small problem, if you have your car reflashed at the dealer and you then reload the saved stock tune back on the car you will lose whatever the dealer put on. Now if they updated the OS and calibration ID's the Predator will probably not restore the stock tune as it would probably crash the PCM. I was considering having the code updated in my PCM when I had the Predator but was told it would have to be shipped back to be cleared, originally I was told no charge then I was told 75.00, mind you this isn't an issue for FORD's. HPTuners all the way, screw DiabloSport if you have a GM. Jeff
One small problem, if you have your car reflashed at the dealer and you then reload the saved stock tune back on the car you will lose whatever the dealer put on. Now if they updated the OS and calibration ID's the Predator will probably not restore the stock tune as it would probably crash the PCM. I was considering having the code updated in my PCM when I had the Predator but was told it would have to be shipped back to be cleared, originally I was told no charge then I was told 75.00, mind you this isn't an issue for FORD's. HPTuners all the way, screw DiabloSport if you have a GM. Jeff
Melting Slicks
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From: Newark, DE
St. Jude Donor '06
Originally Posted by G-lock
One small problem, if you have your car reflashed at the dealer and you then reload the saved stock tune back on the car you will lose whatever the dealer put on.
Of course, if you did any manual tweaks, they will have to be redone.
Burning Brakes
Joined: Mar 2003
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From: Lansing MI
Originally Posted by BW1
That's why you upload the saved stock tune before bringing your car to the dealer. At that point, the Predator is unlocked and could be used on any compatible GM vehicle (including your own car with the new dealer flash). At least that is true for the 2004 Predator (I've done it).
Of course, if you did any manual tweaks, they will have to be redone.
Of course, if you did any manual tweaks, they will have to be redone.
That is exactly correct for 2004's and Fords, 2004 GM's don't marry themselve to the VIN, putting the stock tune back on truly removes it from the flash memory on the Predator. This IS NOT the case for any other GM Predator, it must be cleared by DS and then you can remarry it and put the new factory tune on it. Good luck. Jeff
