At what HP does traction control stop working?
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Just over 350 ... if I turn it off myself. 
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Don't know if it ever does ... your fuel cut-off probably shuts off before your TC does?
:Don't know if it ever does ... your fuel cut-off probably shuts off before your TC does?
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To my understanding Traction control is based on wheel spin so it doesn't matter how much HP you have.
Here is what the onwers manual says:
"The system operates only if it senses that the rear wheels are spinning too much or are beginning to lose traction. When this happens the system works the rear brakes and reduces engine power(by closing the throttle and managing engine spark) to limit wheel spin"
Hope this helps
Here is what the onwers manual says:
"The system operates only if it senses that the rear wheels are spinning too much or are beginning to lose traction. When this happens the system works the rear brakes and reduces engine power(by closing the throttle and managing engine spark) to limit wheel spin"
Hope this helps
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St. Jude Donor '03
Originally Posted by Zilla
To my understanding Traction control is based on wheel spin so it doesn't matter how much HP you have.
Here is what the onwers manual says:
"The system operates only if it senses that the rear wheels are spinning too much or are beginning to lose traction. When this happens the system works the rear brakes and reduces engine power(by closing the throttle and managing engine spark) to limit wheel spin"
Hope this helps
Here is what the onwers manual says:
"The system operates only if it senses that the rear wheels are spinning too much or are beginning to lose traction. When this happens the system works the rear brakes and reduces engine power(by closing the throttle and managing engine spark) to limit wheel spin"
Hope this helps
With enough power, you can actually "overpower the TC".
Just going by recollection here, but as I understand it...
The main power loss felt with TC is the timing retardation. With big hp and custom tuning (mainly advanced timing), what you are essentially doing is still maintaining enough timing and enough hp, that TC is no longer effective. TC will only pull a certain amount of timing, likely based off the stock tuning parameters.
Just like the TC has an activation threshold, it also seems to have a deactivation threshold as well. And if your engine's got the ***** and enough tuned-in timing advance to overpower the changes TC is making, you will in fact blow right through TC.
There was a good thread about this topic a few months ago in the tech section.
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the other catch to the system is that if you are running race tires, and are pulling a lot of Gs in the turns, the computer thinks that there is no way you are sticking to the ground (true for street tires, and most drivers), so it'll jump in with the rear brakes when it doesn't need to.
also, if you happen to go flying, it'll think you are on ice, so you land with you brakes locked
also, if you happen to go flying, it'll think you are on ice, so you land with you brakes locked
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St. Jude Donor '03-'11
Originally Posted by Y2Kvert4me
The main power loss felt with TC is the timing retardation. With big hp and custom tuning (mainly advanced timing), what you are essentially doing is still maintaining enough timing and enough hp, that TC is no longer effective. TC will only pull a certain amount of timing, likely based off the stock tuning parameters.
Just like the TC has an activation threshold, it also seems to have a deactivation threshold as well. And if your engine's got the ***** and enough tuned-in timing advance to overpower the changes TC is making, you will in fact blow right through TC.
There was a good thread about this topic a few months ago in the tech section.
Just like the TC has an activation threshold, it also seems to have a deactivation threshold as well. And if your engine's got the ***** and enough tuned-in timing advance to overpower the changes TC is making, you will in fact blow right through TC.
There was a good thread about this topic a few months ago in the tech section.
Of course it's all a matter of software.
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Originally Posted by Y2Kvert4me
With enough power, you can actually "overpower the TC".
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From: Greer SC
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Originally Posted by Lancer033
the other catch to the system is that if you are running race tires, and are pulling a lot of Gs in the turns, the computer thinks that there is no way you are sticking to the ground (true for street tires, and most drivers), so it'll jump in with the rear brakes when it doesn't need to.
also, if you happen to go flying, it'll think you are on ice, so you land with you brakes locked
also, if you happen to go flying, it'll think you are on ice, so you land with you brakes locked
