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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 12:37 AM
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I have been looking around at exhaust and for some reason I really like the B&B bullet exhaust system with quad tips. I like fairly loud exhaust. I used to drive a mustang with a o/r h pipe and 2 chamber flowmasters. I am new to corvettes, ls1's, etc... Does anyone have this system on a stock h-pipe? How loud is it? I have to commute sometimes and I am worried it might be too loud and become a headache. If someone has it or knows where I could find a clip of how it sounds that would be great. Thanks in advance.

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Dad has it on his vette and yes it is loud and his Vette is a daily driver. He loves it. When I've gone places with him, we can still talk, we just raise our voices a bit.

Overall it's probably the favorite thing he has done so far. The sound clips on the net don't do this system justice.
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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 12:54 AM
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thanks for the quick response. I guess I will have to get it to find out for myself, I am sure I will love it. We will see in a few weeks.
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I have been looking around at exhaust and for some reason I really like the B&B bullet exhaust system with quad tips. I like fairly loud exhaust. I used to drive a mustang with a o/r h pipe and 2 chamber flowmasters. I am new to corvettes, ls1's, etc... Does anyone have this system on a stock h-pipe? How loud is it? I have to commute sometimes and I am worried it might be too loud and become a headache. If someone has it or knows where I could find a clip of how it sounds that would be great. Thanks in advance.

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Hey Bobby,

If you like "fairly loud" rather than extremely loud, then may I suggest the Borla Stinger w/Quad Tips? A friend of mine with a 99 SC C5 had the B&B Bullets but decided to replace them with the Borla Stinger and now is much happier. BTW, I'm very happy with my Borla Stinger w/Quad Tips.



...just my .02 worth

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thanks for the quick response. I guess I will have to get it to find out for myself, I am sure I will love it. We will see in a few weeks.
Or try to find someone local that has it and go listen to it. I think that would be the best way to decide because it WILL be too loud for some people.
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I might like extremely loud? I am not sure. Not sure if anyone is familiar with how mustangs sound with aftermarket exhaust, but my setup i had on my mustang was close perfect. Thats with a 2.5" o/r h-pipe and 2 chamber flows.. Not sure how it would compare to this system, since I am trying to keep this car street legal, I will keep the stock h-pipe on.
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Or try to find someone local that has it and go listen to it. I think that would be the best way to decide because it WILL be too loud for some people.
My friend has Borla XR1 on his Z06, I like how it sounds. How does it compare to that? I would get XR1 but I prefer quad tips.
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I might like extremely loud? I am not sure. Not sure if anyone is familiar with how mustangs sound with aftermarket exhaust, but my setup i had on my mustang was close perfect. Thats with a 2.5" o/r h-pipe and 2 chamber flows.. Not sure how it would compare to this system, since I am trying to keep this car street legal, I will keep the stock h-pipe on.
"...keep the stock h-pipe on" Huh? A C5 has true dual exhaust. Are you referring to the X-pipe?
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My friend has Borla XR1 on his Z06, I like how it sounds. How does it compare to that? I would get XR1 but I prefer quad tips.
I'm not sure how close that would be. I've only heard a stock Z06 in person, and the Bullets are MUCH louder than that.
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"...keep the stock h-pipe on" Huh? A C5 has true dual exhaust. Are you referring to the X-pipe?
It looks like an H to me? H pipes are true dual the last time I checked. So before you go around trying to be Mr. Know It All, have the correct information.
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Originally Posted by GTSLN97
My friend has Borla XR1 on his Z06, I like how it sounds. How does it compare to that? I would get XR1 but I prefer quad tips.
You may have to do some scrolling, nevertheless go to this link for some sound clips.
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Originally Posted by 91LSMAN
I'm not sure how close that would be. I've only heard a stock Z06 in person, and the Bullets are MUCH louder than that.
Hmm... alright. Thanks for all the help.
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Originally Posted by GTSLN97
It looks like an H to me? H pipes are true dual the last time I checked. So before you go around trying to be Mr. Know It All, have the correct information.
Hold on my fellow Corvette Enthusiast. I do not pretend to be a know at all by any means, so I apologize if you mistook my good intentions.

Here is my exhaust system from front to rear...


...I still think your H is my X, if that makes any sense?

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Yeah, I am almost 100% sure that my stock pipe is an H. Aftermarket you can replace it with an X pipe. They have a different sound the the standard H and can free up more horse power.
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Yeah, I am almost 100% sure that my stock pipe is an H. Aftermarket you can replace it with an X pipe. They have a different sound the the standard H and can free up more horse power.
Anyway, did you check out the Borla Website link I posted?
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Bobby,

Get the B&B Bullets! You will love them! I have the 2 tips on my 01 Z06 for about a month now and they sound sweet. And you can trust me on this one....I used to own a 98 Mustang GT with an off road H-pipe with 2 Chamber Flowmasters. Now that was loud! The B&B will be just a tad less loud, it'll still roar but sound more refined and deep. -Don
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Cary- I couldn't find any clips on that site... Where exactly are they located?

OutlawDon- I had a 97 GT with the same exhaust setup. A tad less loud will be perfect. I think I will be ordering that system soon. Thanks for the help.
Also where did you order yours from? So far I found the quad tip system for around $660.

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Just found this on the B&B website.. sounds pretty sweet, and I like how it looks. Also its much cheaper then a lot of the other exhaust systems and only 3 lbs heavier the the z06 ti exhaust. I think they've sold me.

http://www.bbexhaust.com/2003C5Bullet.mov

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Yeah, I am almost 100% sure that my stock pipe is an H. Aftermarket you can replace it with an X pipe. They have a different sound the the standard H and can free up more horse power.

You are correct. The stock Corvette exhausts come with an H pipe up front. For Cary's information the H pipe is used to equalize the pressure and flow between the two exhaust pipes. This helps both the sound and the performance of the system. An X pipe is an aftermarket option and a good one. It does a better job (usually) of equalizing the pressure between the two stock pipes. The stock H pipe has a surprisingly small opening between the two pipes, so any aftermarket pipe is almost sure to be an improvement over stock.

Someone else, I'm sure, can give a more detailed explanation of the H and X pipe function, but I have at least covered the basics for you.

Isn't it nice to be right...at least some of the time!
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You are correct. The stock Corvette exhausts come with an H pipe up front. For Cary's information the H pipe is used to equalize the pressure and flow between the two exhaust pipes. This helps both the sound and the performance of the system. An X pipe is an aftermarket option and a good one. It does a better job (usually) of equalizing the pressure between the two stock pipes. The stock H pipe has a surprisingly small opening between the two pipes, so any aftermarket pipe is almost sure to be an improvement over stock.

Someone else, I'm sure, can give a more detailed explanation of the H and X pipe function, but I have at least covered the basics for you.

Isn't it nice to be right...at least some of the time!
And your explanation of the H-pipe is correct. Installing an X-pipe will give an added benefit.
The X-pipe, not only balances the pressures between the two different pipes, it also acts as a diffuser. When an exhaust pulse comes down one of the two header pipes it comes to the larger area where the two pipes are connected. The larger area acts to slow down the pulse and increase the pressure. This creates a negative pressure that travels back up the other pipe, through the header. If the header is tuned correctly, then this negative pressure arrives at the exhaust valve of an opposite exhaust valve to allow scavenging of the exhaust gases from that exhaust valve.
This should happen at the end of the exhaust stroke, and due to overlap, it should also help to draw in a greater amount of air into the exhaust valve.
The location of the H or Y is impportant to the pressure tuning of the engine.

That is one reason why when installing a set of tuned headers, an X-pipe installation is important. Since the Corvette does not come with stock tuned headers, then the primary purpose of an X-pipe is to allow a better flow and less gurgling sounds when decelerating.
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