Sales Dispute with 69TA
07-04-2008, 08:38 AM
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This needs to stay bumped up until resolved....Character is the things you do when you think no one else is looking, Integrity is when you make sure that the things you do are honorable.
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07-04-2008, 10:55 AM
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07-04-2008, 11:38 AM
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File a claim with your CC once you get a full refund contact Kevin and explain about YOUR no refund policy!!!
But seriously this does stink, but you do atleast have a few options, the cc refund of if needed sell of the tires for rears the would work perfectly as a stock size replacement, I think.
Im sorry you had to go through this so far I have been very happy with all the purchases I have made here on CF.
But seriously this does stink, but you do atleast have a few options, the cc refund of if needed sell of the tires for rears the would work perfectly as a stock size replacement, I think.
Im sorry you had to go through this so far I have been very happy with all the purchases I have made here on CF.
07-04-2008, 12:00 PM
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File a claim with your CC once you get a full refund contact Kevin and explain about YOUR no refund policy!!!
But seriously this does stink, but you do atleast have a few options, the cc refund of if needed sell of the tires for rears the would work perfectly as a stock size replacement, I think.
Im sorry you had to go through this so far I have been very happy with all the purchases I have made here on CF.
But seriously this does stink, but you do atleast have a few options, the cc refund of if needed sell of the tires for rears the would work perfectly as a stock size replacement, I think.
Im sorry you had to go through this so far I have been very happy with all the purchases I have made here on CF.
07-04-2008, 12:02 PM
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You should be asking your credit card company for however much it is going to cost you to buy a replacement pair of tires in the correct size.
07-04-2008, 12:43 PM
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07-04-2008, 01:04 PM
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07-04-2008, 02:31 PM
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This guy Greg is real piece of work. First he sends a whole bunch of pm's haggling the **** out of me on the price and then I go and extended him the courtsey of covering the shipping costs out of my own pocket for the four tires. Something which I told him that I didn't want to do.
Then immediately right after payment he starts sending pm/emails like crazy basically going where's my tires, where's my tires, even at one point insinuating that I am a thief and I am stealing his money.
The tires are literally sent out the next day on a Friday before LABOR day.....one of the busiest holidays of the year.
In not so many words or details, but this guy is a real piece of crap, baby and whiner. Full of himself, demanding this, demanding that. Even goes and tells me he is a LEO (cop). Who cares if you are cop or not.
Before the sale I sent him pictures showing what was being sent and included what they are. These are the same pictures as on my for sale thread.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=2006803
But according to him after getting the tires he says I didn't send him pictures of the sidewalls. Well then if I was ripping him off why would they be posted on my for sale thread. Better yet if he didn't get the pictures.
Why didn't he ask where they where prior to sending the money?
As a matter of fact I didn't even ask him to send the money. Because I didn't want to get stuck with Paypal fees.
He went and sent the money on his own and then I had to chase him down for the Paypal fees.
If he was the type of person who wanted refunds.
Then why wouldn't he ask what the refund policy is before the sale?
I would have told him that all sales are final on used parts and any and all returns will be subject to prior approval with the shipping costs to be the responsibility of the buyer. I am not a store and don't have time to be wasting packing and bring stuff back and forth to UPS for nothing at my cost.
But rather this guy is rude, demanding and making rules after the fact.
Yes there was a PM reply that I sent him back where he asked about the sizes. But honestly I was getting PM's all over the place about this that and the other thing, heading into a very busy weekend.
At first I thought he was making **** up just to extort getting the rears for dirt cheap price. So yes I could have mistaken 30 for 35. But in all fairness I used them on the front of my 2000 C5 and had absolutely no issues with them. A half used 295/35 is the same identical height as that of a new 295/30 tire which he claims he bought now.
Later on he tells me that he is keeping and used the new rear tires and that I need to refund him x amount and cover the return shipping to offset the cost of what he had to pay for his new PS2 fronts. Remember a .6 is divided by two to get a .3 over height change. And with 1/2 used rubber. You would be at the same exact height. So even if our signals were crossed and he never got or saw the original pictures. He could have used them. He chose not to and wanted me to pay him money towards him buying new fronts. If you keep the rears then you keep them all. They were sold as a set. Plain and simple.
It was at this point that I walked away from him. He starts threatening me about negative posts and Paypal complaints, ect. I have been around too long to have to put up with b.s. like this and I am not going to waste any more time or energy on this clown.
Even in a U.S. Judicial Court the judge would say that all goods would need to be returned as originally sold. That's universal where ever you go.
So I ask you now, would you have given this guy the time of day?
This buyer is a complete waste of my time and I refuse to waste any more time on this matter.
This guy Greg is real piece of work. First he sends a whole bunch of pm's haggling the **** out of me on the price and then I go and extended him the courtsey of covering the shipping costs out of my own pocket for the four tires. Something which I told him that I didn't want to do.
Then immediately right after payment he starts sending pm/emails like crazy basically going where's my tires, where's my tires, even at one point insinuating that I am a thief and I am stealing his money.
The tires are literally sent out the next day on a Friday before LABOR day.....one of the busiest holidays of the year.
In not so many words or details, but this guy is a real piece of crap, baby and whiner. Full of himself, demanding this, demanding that. Even goes and tells me he is a LEO (cop). Who cares if you are cop or not.
Before the sale I sent him pictures showing what was being sent and included what they are. These are the same pictures as on my for sale thread.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=2006803
But according to him after getting the tires he says I didn't send him pictures of the sidewalls. Well then if I was ripping him off why would they be posted on my for sale thread. Better yet if he didn't get the pictures.
Why didn't he ask where they where prior to sending the money?
As a matter of fact I didn't even ask him to send the money. Because I didn't want to get stuck with Paypal fees.
He went and sent the money on his own and then I had to chase him down for the Paypal fees.
If he was the type of person who wanted refunds.
Then why wouldn't he ask what the refund policy is before the sale?
I would have told him that all sales are final on used parts and any and all returns will be subject to prior approval with the shipping costs to be the responsibility of the buyer. I am not a store and don't have time to be wasting packing and bring stuff back and forth to UPS for nothing at my cost.
But rather this guy is rude, demanding and making rules after the fact.
Yes there was a PM reply that I sent him back where he asked about the sizes. But honestly I was getting PM's all over the place about this that and the other thing, heading into a very busy weekend.
At first I thought he was making **** up just to extort getting the rears for dirt cheap price. So yes I could have mistaken 30 for 35. But in all fairness I used them on the front of my 2000 C5 and had absolutely no issues with them. A half used 295/35 is the same identical height as that of a new 295/30 tire which he claims he bought now.
Later on he tells me that he is keeping and used the new rear tires and that I need to refund him x amount and cover the return shipping to offset the cost of what he had to pay for his new PS2 fronts. Remember a .6 is divided by two to get a .3 over height change. And with 1/2 used rubber. You would be at the same exact height. So even if our signals were crossed and he never got or saw the original pictures. He could have used them. He chose not to and wanted me to pay him money towards him buying new fronts. If you keep the rears then you keep them all. They were sold as a set. Plain and simple.
It was at this point that I walked away from him. He starts threatening me about negative posts and Paypal complaints, ect. I have been around too long to have to put up with b.s. like this and I am not going to waste any more time or energy on this clown.
Even in a U.S. Judicial Court the judge would say that all goods would need to be returned as originally sold. That's universal where ever you go.
So I ask you now, would you have given this guy the time of day?
This buyer is a complete waste of my time and I refuse to waste any more time on this matter.
Last edited by 69TA; 07-04-2008 at 03:05 PM.
07-04-2008, 03:03 PM
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This guy Greg is real piece of work. First he sends a whole bunch of pm's haggling the **** out of me on the price and then I go and extended him the courtsey of covering the shipping costs out of my own pocket for the four tires. Something which I told him that I didn't want to do.
Then immediately right after payment he starts sending pm/emails like crazy basically going where's my tires, where's my tires, even at one point insinuating that I am a thief and I am stealing his money.
The tires are literally sent out the next day on a Friday before LABOR day.....one of the busiest holidays of the year.
In not so many words or details, but this guy is a real piece of crap, baby and whiner. Full of himself, demanding this, demanding that. Even goes and tells me he is a LEO (cop). Who cares if you are cop or not.
Before the sale I sent him pictures showing what was being sent and included what they are. These are the same pictures as on my for sale thread.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=2006803
But according to him after getting the tires he says I didn't send him pictures of the sidewalls. Well then if I was ripping him off why would they be posted on my for sale thread. Better yet if he didn't get the pictures.
Why didn't he ask where they where prior to sending the money?
If he was the type of person who wanted refunds.
Why wouldn't he ask what the refund policy is before the sale? Rather than demanding and making rules after the fact.
Yes there was a PM reply that I sent him back where he asked about the sizes. But honestly I was getting PM's all over the place about this that and the other thing, heading into a very busy weekend.
At first I thought he was making **** up just to extort getting the rears for dirt cheap. So yes I could have mistaken 30 for 35. But in all fairness I used them on the front of my 2000 C5 and had absolutely no issues with them. A half used 295/35 is the same identical height as that of a new 295/30 tire which he claims he bought now.
Later on he tells me that he is keeping and used the new rear tires and that I need to refund him x amount and cover the return shipping to offset the cost of what he had to pay for his new PS2 fronts.
What's up with that?
It was at this point that I walked away from him. He starts threatening me about negative posts and Paypal complaints, ect. I have been around too long to have to put up with b.s. like this and I am not going to waste any more time or energy on this clown.
Even in a U.S. Judicial Court the judge would say that all goods would need to be returned as originally sold. That's universal where ever you go.
So I ask you now, would you have given this guy the time of day?
This buyer is a complete waste of my time and I refuse to waste any more time on this matter.
This guy Greg is real piece of work. First he sends a whole bunch of pm's haggling the **** out of me on the price and then I go and extended him the courtsey of covering the shipping costs out of my own pocket for the four tires. Something which I told him that I didn't want to do.
Then immediately right after payment he starts sending pm/emails like crazy basically going where's my tires, where's my tires, even at one point insinuating that I am a thief and I am stealing his money.
The tires are literally sent out the next day on a Friday before LABOR day.....one of the busiest holidays of the year.
In not so many words or details, but this guy is a real piece of crap, baby and whiner. Full of himself, demanding this, demanding that. Even goes and tells me he is a LEO (cop). Who cares if you are cop or not.
Before the sale I sent him pictures showing what was being sent and included what they are. These are the same pictures as on my for sale thread.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=2006803
But according to him after getting the tires he says I didn't send him pictures of the sidewalls. Well then if I was ripping him off why would they be posted on my for sale thread. Better yet if he didn't get the pictures.
Why didn't he ask where they where prior to sending the money?
If he was the type of person who wanted refunds.
Why wouldn't he ask what the refund policy is before the sale? Rather than demanding and making rules after the fact.
Yes there was a PM reply that I sent him back where he asked about the sizes. But honestly I was getting PM's all over the place about this that and the other thing, heading into a very busy weekend.
At first I thought he was making **** up just to extort getting the rears for dirt cheap. So yes I could have mistaken 30 for 35. But in all fairness I used them on the front of my 2000 C5 and had absolutely no issues with them. A half used 295/35 is the same identical height as that of a new 295/30 tire which he claims he bought now.
Later on he tells me that he is keeping and used the new rear tires and that I need to refund him x amount and cover the return shipping to offset the cost of what he had to pay for his new PS2 fronts.
What's up with that?
It was at this point that I walked away from him. He starts threatening me about negative posts and Paypal complaints, ect. I have been around too long to have to put up with b.s. like this and I am not going to waste any more time or energy on this clown.
Even in a U.S. Judicial Court the judge would say that all goods would need to be returned as originally sold. That's universal where ever you go.
So I ask you now, would you have given this guy the time of day?
This buyer is a complete waste of my time and I refuse to waste any more time on this matter.
07-04-2008, 03:12 PM
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Wow! That was an interesting story. To VISA I go.
Kevin, after VISA returns the money owed to me, I will send you back the 2 tires.
Kevin, after VISA returns the money owed to me, I will send you back the 2 tires.
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07-04-2008, 03:20 PM
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I hope you go to visa and I hope you really are a cop.
This way you can lose your job for falsifying a police report
claiming you didn't get something.
I have the tracking numbers showing all four where shipped to your address as shown on your CC.
And by your own admission all over the place that you received said four tires.
Grow the F up. If you want a refund for something don't go eating half the meal and decide what you want to pay or not pay.
I told you to send all four tires back. You took it upon yourself to use the rears. As far as I am concerned we are done here.
To your supporters go buy something use half of it and and try to return it see what they tell you.
This way you can lose your job for falsifying a police report
claiming you didn't get something.
I have the tracking numbers showing all four where shipped to your address as shown on your CC.
And by your own admission all over the place that you received said four tires.
Grow the F up. If you want a refund for something don't go eating half the meal and decide what you want to pay or not pay.
I told you to send all four tires back. You took it upon yourself to use the rears. As far as I am concerned we are done here.
To your supporters go buy something use half of it and and try to return it see what they tell you.
Last edited by 69TA; 07-04-2008 at 03:22 PM.
07-04-2008, 03:48 PM
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My guess is VISA will expect you to return the tires before they will issue you a credit. Once you provide proof of return, you will get your credit and PaPal will be on the hook for the money!
07-04-2008, 03:49 PM
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07-04-2008, 04:32 PM
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