LS edit & Predator
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Racer
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LS edit & Predator Update
I have had my 01/A4, dyno tuned with LS edit my question is can use a predator to do some adjustments with loseing the LS edit programing. I don't want to have to keep bring it back to the tuner to make minor adjustments. I'm thinking it will not notice the differance between stock programing and an LS edit am I wrong.
Some one must have an answer to this.
OK here’s the scoop, I called a few places that sell the predator and this is what I was told by their Tech’s. The predator will not know the difference from an edited or stock program, its all stock to the predator it will download your program and save it, in my case an LS1 edited program, it will then ASK you if you want to upload their program OR modify your stock/edited program which in my case I would want to do. In other words I can make specific changes to my stock/edited program with effecting or loosing the LS1 edited program.
Steve
Some one must have an answer to this.
OK here’s the scoop, I called a few places that sell the predator and this is what I was told by their Tech’s. The predator will not know the difference from an edited or stock program, its all stock to the predator it will download your program and save it, in my case an LS1 edited program, it will then ASK you if you want to upload their program OR modify your stock/edited program which in my case I would want to do. In other words I can make specific changes to my stock/edited program with effecting or loosing the LS1 edited program.
Steve
Last edited by Steveo1c5; Jan 31, 2005 at 12:51 PM.
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I have wondered the same thing. I would assume that the Predator would take the LS1 edit tune as your stock tune when you loaded it into the unit. Again I would ASSUME you could change things from there..... I haven't had the courage to try it though
Racer
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I would also assume that it would take your edit tune as the stock one when you first hook it up. There is a warning statement that it gives you to make sure that you have the stock tune or you could mess things up. If you could only load a stock tune, I don't think that they would show this message.
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the Predator likes to load it's "Performance Tune" program into your PCM.
What it does is first downloads your existing program into the Predator. Then the Predator makes mathematical changes to this program... and then uploads it back into your PCM. This is called the "Performance Tune" program.
What I've been told is that with a custom tune already in your PCM... you can still use the Predator to make changes, but you should NOT DO THE PERFORMANCE TUNE procedure.
Then I was told that only the newer version Predators will allow you to proceed using it without going through the Performance Tune procedure (that the earlier models forced you to do the PT procedure... there was no way around it).
For more exacting info - I'd suggest calling DiabloSport themselves.
What it does is first downloads your existing program into the Predator. Then the Predator makes mathematical changes to this program... and then uploads it back into your PCM. This is called the "Performance Tune" program.
What I've been told is that with a custom tune already in your PCM... you can still use the Predator to make changes, but you should NOT DO THE PERFORMANCE TUNE procedure.
Then I was told that only the newer version Predators will allow you to proceed using it without going through the Performance Tune procedure (that the earlier models forced you to do the PT procedure... there was no way around it).
For more exacting info - I'd suggest calling DiabloSport themselves.
Last edited by Mike Mercury; Feb 15, 2005 at 12:27 PM.
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Originally Posted by Mike Mercury
What it does is first uploads your existing program into the Predator. Then the Predator makes mathematical changes to this program... and then downloads it back into your PCM. This is called the "Performance Tune" program.
What I've been told is that with a custom tune already in your PCM... you can still use the Predator to make changes, but you should NOT DO THE PERFORMANCE TUNE procedure.
Then I was told that only the newer version Predators will allow you to proceed using it without going through the Performance Tune procedure (that the earlier models forced you to do the PT procedure... there was no way around it).
What I've been told is that with a custom tune already in your PCM... you can still use the Predator to make changes, but you should NOT DO THE PERFORMANCE TUNE procedure.
Then I was told that only the newer version Predators will allow you to proceed using it without going through the Performance Tune procedure (that the earlier models forced you to do the PT procedure... there was no way around it).
I'm glad I've got the 2004 Predator. I've never even used the "Performance Tune." I just make adjustments to the stock tune, based on dyno pull results and realtime stats I gather.
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Originally Posted by BW1
Exactly right... except for the benefit of the computer geeks among us, you reversed the meaning of download/upload. You download to the Predator, and upload to the PCM (just like on the Web... you download to your pc, and upload to the website). If it helps to remember, anytime you receive something, it's a download; anytime you send something, it's an upload.
I'm glad I've got the 2004 Predator. I've never even used the "Performance Tune." I just make adjustments to the stock tune, based on dyno pull results and realtime stats I gather.
I'm glad I've got the 2004 Predator. I've never even used the "Performance Tune." I just make adjustments to the stock tune, based on dyno pull results and realtime stats I gather.
This may still be confusing for some. So here is another way to understand this:
You upload sperm and you download 18 years of headachs...
