What tune do I need.
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Instructor
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From: Mineral Illinois
What tune do I need.
I have a 04 M6 Coupe. Vararam and Corsa Pace Car. What tune do I need. Hand Held (no experiene) or a tune at the shop(2 hours away)? Any info welcome.
Thanks
Thanks
Drifting
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From: Northern VA
I would wait until you add other mods. Your not likely to get your monies worth with just a Vararam, although some folks report throwing codes after the install. Catback won't make any difference.
Handhelds are really only useful on autos when you switch rear gears or converter.
Handhelds are really only useful on autos when you switch rear gears or converter.
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David --
Let me give you my personal perspective, before you go too far with your tuning and modding.
I did the same thing as you, started off with intake and catback, then went to throttle body, intake manifold, dyno tune, etc., etc., etc., based on the advice of one of the best GM certified C5 mechanics in the country -- c4c5specialist. Paul gives courses at Carlisle each year to other "tuners" -- he's very good.
And here were the results:
337 hp and 336 tq rear wheel is basically equivalent to what the first Z06s (2001) were putting out -- not too shabby with some basic mods.
But all that came with a lot of back and forth and fussing. And time, never mind expense.
So this is the really meaningful graph:
What that graph above tells you is that you should be careful how much you stray from stock -- cost and headaches go right up with performance when you are tuning -- ideally you want to stay below the curve -- where cost and headaches don't outweigh any performance gains.
Long story short, I just returned my car to "more stock" because while I like the additional horsepower rush, the drivability issues simply weren't worth it to me anymore.
You mention in your profile you are pleased with the performance of your '04, so you may want to consider stopping right there, with the mods you have.
Enjoy the car, and all the best.
Let me give you my personal perspective, before you go too far with your tuning and modding.
I did the same thing as you, started off with intake and catback, then went to throttle body, intake manifold, dyno tune, etc., etc., etc., based on the advice of one of the best GM certified C5 mechanics in the country -- c4c5specialist. Paul gives courses at Carlisle each year to other "tuners" -- he's very good.
And here were the results:
337 hp and 336 tq rear wheel is basically equivalent to what the first Z06s (2001) were putting out -- not too shabby with some basic mods.
But all that came with a lot of back and forth and fussing. And time, never mind expense.
So this is the really meaningful graph:
What that graph above tells you is that you should be careful how much you stray from stock -- cost and headaches go right up with performance when you are tuning -- ideally you want to stay below the curve -- where cost and headaches don't outweigh any performance gains.
Long story short, I just returned my car to "more stock" because while I like the additional horsepower rush, the drivability issues simply weren't worth it to me anymore.
You mention in your profile you are pleased with the performance of your '04, so you may want to consider stopping right there, with the mods you have.
Enjoy the car, and all the best.
Pro
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From: West Yarmouth MA.
David --
Let me give you my personal perspective, before you go too far with your tuning and modding.
I did the same thing as you, started off with intake and catback, then went to throttle body, intake manifold, dyno tune, etc., etc., etc., based on the advice of one of the best GM certified C5 mechanics in the country -- c4c5specialist. Paul gives courses at Carlisle each year to other "tuners" -- he's very good.
And here were the results:
337 hp and 336 tq rear wheel is basically equivalent to what the first Z06s (2001) were putting out -- not too shabby with some basic mods.
But all that came with a lot of back and forth and fussing. And time, never mind expense.
So this is the really meaningful graph:
What that graph above tells you is that you should be careful how much you stray from stock -- cost and headaches go right up with performance when you are tuning -- ideally you want to stay below the curve -- where cost and headaches don't outweigh any performance gains.
Long story short, I just returned my car to "more stock" because while I like the additional horsepower rush, the drivability issues simply weren't worth it to me anymore.
You mention in your profile you are pleased with the performance of your '04, so you may want to consider stopping right there, with the mods you have.
Enjoy the car, and all the best.
Let me give you my personal perspective, before you go too far with your tuning and modding.
I did the same thing as you, started off with intake and catback, then went to throttle body, intake manifold, dyno tune, etc., etc., etc., based on the advice of one of the best GM certified C5 mechanics in the country -- c4c5specialist. Paul gives courses at Carlisle each year to other "tuners" -- he's very good.
And here were the results:
337 hp and 336 tq rear wheel is basically equivalent to what the first Z06s (2001) were putting out -- not too shabby with some basic mods.
But all that came with a lot of back and forth and fussing. And time, never mind expense.
So this is the really meaningful graph:
What that graph above tells you is that you should be careful how much you stray from stock -- cost and headaches go right up with performance when you are tuning -- ideally you want to stay below the curve -- where cost and headaches don't outweigh any performance gains.
Long story short, I just returned my car to "more stock" because while I like the additional horsepower rush, the drivability issues simply weren't worth it to me anymore.
You mention in your profile you are pleased with the performance of your '04, so you may want to consider stopping right there, with the mods you have.
Enjoy the car, and all the best.
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Instructor
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From: Mineral Illinois
Thanks for the input. Brings to mind the solid lifter high hp days of the 60's and 70's.
A tune for now. I love the power, but I also love to do tips with out the worries of the 60's and 70's.
Thanks.
A tune for now. I love the power, but I also love to do tips with out the worries of the 60's and 70's.
Thanks.
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