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Old Feb 13, 2012 | 07:34 PM
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Got a question for all you guru's out there. I have a 2002 ZO6 that I have done a little to. Cold air, mild cam, long tube headers (no cats) Borla stinger exhaust, hardened pushrods, rebuilt rockers, upgraded oil pump new springs. something like that. Last year on the dyno gave me about 440 RWH. This year I am putting on a fast 90 with a 90mm TB. Injectors are stock. My question is. Should I up grade injectors? Why? With What?
I live in Chicago so the car is put up about 5 months out of the year. When it is not it is my daily driver.
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Old Feb 13, 2012 | 10:19 PM
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Log the injector duty cycle on a WOT run. If it's 80-85% you don't need to up-size the injectors.
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Billf6531
Log the injector duty cycle on a WOT run. If it's 80-85% you don't need to up-size the injectors.
you should be able to log your duty cycles with most any scanner---The problem if you go to a too large of an injector is that the idle and off idle tuning can be a bitch---surging/dying/idle hunting can result---On my '98 with apprx 400 RWHP I still use the stock 28 lb injectors-(same as yours)
-My duty cylces at the end of a drag pass go up to 92%--the car still performs well--As long as you let the injectors cool down between runs it's fine--Or on the street don't run at WOT for a long long time without a cool down--
ALSO Just my opinion and experience-- a 90/90 combo is an overkill for a stock cam/heads engine--The cost is pricey--and to me you'd be better off speding the $$ elsewhere--I would get a CAM !!! 1st
My car is an A4 so my RWHP is lower but if my car had a 6 speed it would have smiliar RWHP to yours---
I run an older FAST 78 with a Shaner T-body
You may gain a few RWHP with that set-up BUT only at the higher RPM ranges--from around 6400 on up--And LOSE bottom end HP and most importantly bottom end TQ--- To me it's just not worth the $$$
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 08:07 PM
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The motor does have a cam but no head work as of yet. Ive heard theses ZO6 heads do a pretty good job just the way they are. Not trying to build a race car just a fast street one.
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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 08:19 AM
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The Fast 90/90 is an excellent combination you will leave power on the table if the manifold is not ported correctly. There are very few I would trust to port it.

Or, the Fast 102 provides excellent results with no additional port work, the down side is a potential fit issue with the 102. That seems to vary car to car.

If you do a little searching C5 & 6 regarding the Fast 90/92 & 102, look for comments by Tony Mamo & Spinmonster. You will find the gains are substantial!

My guess is your injector's are fine, just log them as Bill suggested. If you find you need to change them I have a lightly used set of Red Top SVO's with the correct data for a bargain price.

Just found this over on LS1:

http://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomete...-only-ls1.html

Last edited by CTD; Feb 17, 2012 at 09:07 AM. Reason: added a link
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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 06:27 PM
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with stock 28.8 injectors and 440 RWHP, you are over 80% duty cycle at WOT.

You'll need at least 30 pound injectors. The ford red tops work well.
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