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Old Jan 18, 2022 | 01:08 PM
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Looking to increase the speed (make it rev quicker, shift faster) like the use of Pedal Commander; using online- download / handheld / fixed incar device, type-deal.
Not interested at All in HPT but short of that I have laptop and can access my ECU for online downloads or the something I can attach to the car to adjust the lack of speed it reacts. Not interested at this point in anything other than maybe a Predator to re calculate the factory settings or a COW tune that would work on a base setup.
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Old Jan 19, 2022 | 01:28 PM
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Maybe a more accurate ask would be, what sources are there to making the DBW gas pedal inputs happen faster?
As in cutting the lag time created by the DBW. The typical; stab - pause - rev
The electronic signal happens at a slower rate especially when you want a fast reaction from the gas pedal to servo motor on the throttle body


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Old Jan 20, 2022 | 09:12 AM
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When I used EFILive to tune my car I was able to change the TB decay to a livable time....almost instant throttle control. HPT might also do it but it does take a tuning software. If you have someone do it make sure they do not set it to ) decay as it is unlivable to drive with it like that.
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I know you can do it with efilive,but if you go to far you can brick the pcm,I did the upper part of the table and had no problems, and only adjusted the the lower part alittle bit
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Appreciate the replies. Looking into EFIlive and Corvettes of Westchester Tuning. Some sort of quicker but progressive DBW throttle action would make the car feel more responsive for sure
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I know you can do it with efilive,but if you go to far you can brick the pcm,I did the upper part of the table and had no problems, and only adjusted the the lower part alittle bit
I normally set the " ETC Pedal TQ. Limit Reduction" table by setting the entire table to 100% from 217 to max value
Other years have different values based on Max TQ percentage
On those I set all of them to 100 % only down to like 20%
You are correct some vehicles are more sensitive on making adjustments mostly on how LOW you go at 100%
I have never had an ECM Brick from these adjustments however more frightening I have had the gas pedal get stuck at 2000-3000 RPM's when coming to a stop !!
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What does “brik” mean ?
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Has anyone made a data log showing pedal position and throttle blade position while you cycle them from 0 to 100% and stomp a couple times?

I'm really curious as to whether the delay that people perceive is actually in the throttle blade angle or just in the engine's response to throttle blade change changes.
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What does “brik” mean ?
"Brick" is a term used that the pcm/ecm is toast lol
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Originally Posted by NSFW
Has anyone made a data log showing pedal position and throttle blade position while you cycle them from 0 to 100% and stomp a couple times?

I'm really curious as to whether the delay that people perceive is actually in the throttle blade angle or just in the engine's response to throttle blade change changes.
I’ve logged pedal vs TPS with hpt and there is a very slight delay. 0.1 seconds iirc. And that’s if you believe hpt scanner accuracy.

I also think you are correct about the engines ability to respond to the blade opening.

I have a 90mm LS2 throttle body on my C5, I actually think it’s too sensitive. I didn’t muck with the TPS tables at all.
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Originally Posted by NSFW
Has anyone made a data log showing pedal position and throttle blade position while you cycle them from 0 to 100% and stomp a couple times?

I'm really curious as to whether the delay that people perceive is actually in the throttle blade angle or just in the engine's response to throttle blade change changes.
Yeah I'm with you here. I have played with my DBW settings a lot and it's way too sensitive with a bigger TB. Had to mellow out the curve. I think the delay they feel is primarily engine response. MAF sensors are pretty slow to respond and this results in sluggish fuel changes which affect the responsiveness I find. I simply adjusted parameters to have it lean more on MAP at lower RPM and it got a lot snappier
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What parameter did you alter to have it do that? I'm trying to learn and there aren't many active threads on this forum. Definitely some knowledge without much discussion.
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What parameter did you alter to have it do that? I'm trying to learn and there aren't many active threads on this forum. Definitely some knowledge without much discussion.
Just the throttle mapping table that translates accelerator pedal to throttle plate opening.

Unless you're talking about the airflow. It's under the dynamic airflow settings. Sorry I don't have a comp with HPT nearby so I don't remember the exact location but you can change parameters to make it lean more on MAP at lower RPM
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Originally Posted by jonofmac
I simply adjusted parameters to have it lean more on MAP at lower RPM and it got a lot snappier
How much did you lean it out? Did you fade the input back to standard towards the end of the adjustments?
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Originally Posted by RonSSNova
I’ve logged pedal vs TPS with hpt and there is a very slight delay. 0.1 seconds iirc. And that’s if you believe hpt scanner accuracy.

I also think you are correct about the engines ability to respond to the blade opening.

I have a 90mm LS2 throttle body on my C5, I actually think it’s too sensitive. I didn’t muck with the TPS tables at all.
Ron, did you have to rewire the LS2 TB or was it the early LS2 (C5 compatible)?
Also did you use an LS2 manifold or an adapter on the LS1 manifold?
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Originally Posted by Hary Gahtoe
Ron, did you have to rewire the LS2 TB or was it the early LS2 (C5 compatible)?
Also did you use an LS2 manifold or an adapter on the LS1 manifold?
Thanks for the replies
I used the LS2 silver blade with the appropriate adapter harness.
My intake is a Fast 102 so it bolts right up.
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