When you click on links to various merchants on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network.
WITH A HYPERTECH POWER PROGRAMMER CAN I PROGRAM MY 99 LS-1 FORMULA'S CHANGED REAR END RATIO AND CORRECT THE SPEEDO/OD AND THEN USE IT ON MY 99 VETTE FOR PROGRAMMING MODS? ANY HELP WOULD BE GREAT! THANKS MEN...
nada....the unit stores the VIN upon download and locks it from use on another auto. Predator is the same, but a better unit with more options. Look for RWTD to find out if unit is available for your specific ride.
I KNOW NOW THAT HPP3 LOCKS IN ONE VIN NUMBER AND ONLY DOES ONE CAR. SO, NOW TO ONLY CORRECT THE SPEEDO I MUST BUY ONE OF THESE BECAUSE THE DEALER SEZ HE CAN ONLY INSTALL THE ORIGINAL PROGRAM. IS THIS CORRECT? :confused:
You can use the Hypertech on more than one car, but only one car at a time. To use it on a second car, you have to upload the cars original data back (ie, undo what you loaded in) then you can use it on another car. Go to their website to read about this feature: http://www.hypertech-inc.com/
You can use the Hypertech on more than one car, but only one car at a time. To use it on a second car, you have to upload the cars original data back (ie, undo what you loaded in) then you can use it on another car. Go to their website to read about this feature: http://www.hypertech-inc.com/
This is true. If you sell the car, you can then sell the Hypertech, also, and it will work on the same year and model car if you reloaded the stock programming back into the original vehicle. With the Predator, you have bought it for life and it will only work on the original vehicle it was used on. If you sell the car, or are dissatified with what the Predator does for you, you may as well throw it away or use it for a paperweight. Personally, I like the performance and versatility of the Hypertech, and the ability to recover your investment when finished with it. I believe any actual performance differences between the Predator and Hypertech are miniscule, at best...JMHO.
Ed
If you sell the car, or are dissatified with what the Predator does for you, you may as well throw it away or use it for a paperweight.[/b]
The Predator comes with a 15 day money back guarantee. The Hypertech does not have any factory guarantee.
Personally, I like the performance and versatility of the Hypertech, and the ability to recover your investment when finished with it.
His unit will not tune that '99 Firebird. It will only tune his '99 Vette or another '99 Vette, as that would require an additional HPP3 (the '99 Vette part # is specific to that model and year only).
I believe any actual performance differences between the Predator and Hypertech are miniscule, at best...JMHO.
As for the performance of the Predator, I'll go on record to state that of any handheld unit on the market that we offer the most complete tune as well as the most versatility so the end-user can dial their tune in even further. Our unit's adjustments are unmatched by the other handhelds. Plus we offer code scanning and description reading, as well as resetting, and the Predator can also monitor 18 live sensors and display the data directly to the end-user.
I agree with you that the Predator has some good features and it certainly can do some things other handhelds cannot. However...
If you sell the car, or are dissatified with what the Predator does for you, you may as well throw it away or use it for a paperweight.[/b]
The Predator comes with a 15 day money back guarantee. The Hypertech does not have any factory guarantee.
If you sell the car, the Predator is useless escept to the person who bought the car. My understanding is it marries itself to the VIN forever. If you're dissatified after 15 days, what then? It sometimes takes awhile to dial the car in. From the postings I've read (because I was thinking about buying one) the stock programming doesn't appear to do much, if anything. To start adjusting, A/F ratios, timing etc, which the Predator will do, you need a datalogging device to see where your adjustments are taking you. My understanding is that the Predator does not trend, it only displays realtime data. So you need another device to fully utilize these features.
Personally, I like the performance and versatility of the Hypertech, and the ability to recover your investment when finished with it.
His unit will not tune that '99 Firebird. It will only tune his '99 Vette or another '99 Vette, as that would require an additional HPP3 (the '99 Vette part # is specific to that model and year only).
This is exactly what I said in my post. However, the Hypertech could be sold to another 1999 Vette owner and it will perform fine as long as the stock programming was returned to the car being sold. The Predator, as mentioned earlier, marries itself to one vehicle forever. You can never even partially recover your investment. Many people were pretty upset over this when the Predator was initially released. It was supposed to be like the Hypertech in this regard, but was changed at the last minute. I was planning on buying one until this "lock" was put in.
I believe any actual performance differences between the Predator and Hypertech are miniscule, at best...JMHO.
As for the performance of the Predator, I'll go on record to state that of any handheld unit on the market that we offer the most complete tune as well as the most versatility so the end-user can dial their tune in even further. Our unit's adjustments are unmatched by the other handhelds. Plus we offer code scanning and description reading, as well as resetting, and the Predator can also monitor 18 live sensors and display the data directly to the end-user.
As I mentioned earlier, I agree the Predator is more versitle than the Hypertech. However, you cannot utilize many of the features without employing other (readout) devices or using a dyno to tune. Add these other costs on to the non-recoverable original cost of the Predator and the total begins to build in a hurry. From the performance data I've seen, and the many posts I've read, like the other handhelds, the Predator doesn't do a whole lot for M6s, but does for A4s, just like the Hypertech, and the Powerloader, for that matter. From the threads I've read, performance results appear nearly identical. They each have strengths, weaknesses and tradeoffs. For me, with an A4, the Hypertech works great. For others the Predator may. To each his own... Peace..:cheers:
Ed
From the performance data I've seen, and the many posts I've read, like the other handhelds, the Predator doesn't do a whole lot for M6s, but does for A4s, just like the Hypertech, and the Powerloader for that matter.
2001 Camaro SS Stock, save for a LID:
As for what it can and can't do for an automatic versus a manual, that theory would apply to any tuning device, as a manual requires a driver to shift, as well as possess good skills. The performance tuning is still there. It's up to the driver of the manual to learn to shift quicker and better, as well as launch effectively, so using the excuse that it doesn't do much for the manuals is not really valid.
From the performance data I've seen, and the many posts I've read, like the other handhelds, the Predator doesn't do a whole lot for M6s, but does for A4s, just like the Hypertech, and the Powerloader for that matter.
2001 Camaro SS Stock, save for a LID:
As for what it can and can't do for an automatic versus a manual, that theory would apply to any tuning device, as a manual requires a driver to shift, as well as possess good skills. The performance tuning is still there. It's up to the driver of the manual to learn to shift quicker and better, as well as launch effectively, so using the excuse that it doesn't do much for the manuals is not really valid.
Sincerely...
[Modified by RWTD, 5:56 PM 1/16/2003]
Well, you lost me with your manual vs. automatic reasoning. Of course, it's valid and is the primary reason you see so many more A4s than M6s using these simpler programmers. There's a ton of posts on this site, both current and archived, that say the same thing. The Predator is okay, I just haven't seen anything that shows me the actual performance difference is much different than the Hypertech.
Ed
They'll give you your money back if you don't like it.
You're right, and I was too quickly to assert that. My apologies. I do appreciate you clarifying that, and I have verified that as well. It is up to the individual dealer, though, but if you buy direct through them they will honor up to 30 days.