Copy of my post that I put in the wrong channel...

Recently there was a reply to a post about programmers and that Predator was better then HyperTech.
Knowing very little about how the Mechanics of how an Engine works, I will not argue, but my question is... does anyone know why? Or is this just an opinion.

My problem is... I can buy a HyperTech local (I like being able to physically bring something back if need be) for $100 less then the Predator, something I'd have to order from the web (no one carry them locally )

If there really is a difference in the favor of the Predator, I'll spend the extra $100 and buy off the net.

Also, is there an official website for the Predator? Everything I've found so far was basic info about it from online shops trying to sell them.

Thanks.
:cheers:

*edit* The main reason I'm in the market for a reprogrammers is I'm upgrading my gears (A4) from 3.15 to 3.73. Getting extra performance is an added bonus.


[Modified by Oyea, 6:29 PM 6/26/2003]

 

Hello Oyea, and I hope all is well with you. I'll be glad to answer your post for you, as you have requested, sir.

While I'm not here to downplay a competitors product, I will be more than happy to point out key differences between our device and of the other handheld competition. Here are some of the features of the Predator:

- 30-Day Satisfaction Guarantee!
- Lifetime Warranty!
- 8-Line LCD backlit display screen (300% larger than the competition)
- Quicker programming than the competition (takes approx. 2 min.)
- OBD-II diagnostic software (includes live data monitoring of MPH, RPM, IAT, ECT, LTFT, STFT, O2 Voltage, Timing, KR detection, as well as many other sensors; for a complete listing please see the FAQ) (competition does not offer)
- Revised Torque Management Settings for optimum performance
- Eliminates CAGS (Skip Shifting) on the 6-speed manual transmissions (GM)
- Internet Update Capabilities:

-- Custom professionally tuned files can be made by Runnin' With The Devil and are downloaded from the internet (optional feature) (competition does not offer)
-- BIOS revisions via internet allows for future updates (feature still in development) (competition does not offer)

- User adjustability: User can set their own parameters. Choose from DiabloSport's included performance program, have a custom performance program made for you by Runnin' With The Devil (see above), or modify the performance program your own.

Current available end-user adjustable options:

- Axle Ratio: Can adjust from a 2.xx up to a 6.xx in .01 increments.
- Cooling Fans: Will adjust both ON and OFF in 1 degree increments up/down.
- Power Enrichment (Fuel): Will adjust from -5% to +5% at WOT
- Spark (Timing): Will adjust from from -10% to +10% at WOT
- Shift Adaption (duration): Allows user to adjust the time delay during the gear change, i.e. quickness of the shift, from -25% up to +25%
- Shift Points (MPH): Allows user to adjust at what MPH the shift should take place, for each individual gear, in 1 mph increments.
- Shift Points (RPM): Allows user to adjust at what RPM the shift should take place, for each individual gear, in 10 rpm increments.
- Shift Pressure: Allows user to adjust the firmness of the shift action, for each individual gear, from -25% up to +25%
- Rev Limit: Allows user to adjust ON/OFF rev limits, for each individual gear, in 10 rpm increments.
- Wheel Sizing:

-- Factory Wheel Size: Enter the factory tire size in XXX/XX-XX format, i.e. 275/40-17
-- Actual Wheel Size: Enter the actual tire size in XXX/XX-XX format, i.e. 305/35-18
The Predator then calculates the difference in overall height for proper speedo calibration.

www.diablosport.com and www.runninwiththedevil.com (my site)

The Hypertech will not accomidate a gear change any higher than a 3.15. Being that you have 3.15's now you could switch to 3.42's and your Vette would shift right under WOT, but your shift point rpm/mph would be slightly off from before, so you wouldn't be getting the maximum performance from your gear swap.

Since you're switching to a 3.73, the Hypertech is NOT an option for you at all. The Predator can adjust for this (currently I'm doing gear swaps via free custom tunes, but v1.04 of the Predator will have this feature standard w/out having to always have a custom tune).

I appreciate you giving me the time to help, and if there is anything else that you may need, then please feel free to ask away, as I'm here to help!

Have a great night!

Sincerely...

 

Thanks for the reply. :D

There definately seems to be more opitons with the Predator, so that alone makes it more attractive. Add in, that the main reason I need a reprogrammer wouldn't be available in the HyperTech... Predator is the only choice.

Couple questions if that's ok?

v1.04
Is the ability to do special gear changes manually instead of needing a custom setup, the only difference between it and the current version?

When will the new version be available?

If I go with the current version, is there a place on your order form where I would state I need it customized for 3.73's?

I'll be picking up my car tomorrow morning, and I'm going to be nervous driving it around until I get it reprogrammed, so I'll probably buy from you this weekend... if there is a major difference between to the two versions, any chance on getting a deal on the newer version while sending back the original programmer? If so... :cheers: If not, it's not going to be a deciding factor, as I've already decided to give you my business. :D

 

I have to question your response. I just bought a Predator from you a week ago. Its manual states a 15 day return policy and says that gear changes are n/a for Corvettes. It refers to an addendum to the instructions but there was no addendum in the package. I bought it in part because I went from run flats to Z06 OEM tires and it did accurately recalibrate the speedo, but I was disappointed that a future gear change seemed out of the question.

 

I bought one of the first units from RWTD and he sent me a custom tune via e-mail when I changed my gears from 3.15 to 3.73. It works great.James is the right person to get your predator from.You can take it from me the program works for 3.73 gears.

 

Hello Grant, and I hope all is well with you, sir. I appreciate the post.

The actual return policy is 30 days. The manual states 15 days as that is what the return policy used to be on the Predators only, and 30 days on all other DiabloSport products. I discussed this with DiabloSport and they agreed to allow a 30 day return policy. It is independent on the dealer, however, but regardless, I offer a 30 day money back guarantee, just as it says on my website.

Actually, Corvettes will automatically recalibrate the speedometer for changes in tire height or gearing. The sensor that the reading is taken from is different from other vehicles, in that it is taken directly from the differential. However, if a 10% threshhold range from gear change is crossed, on average, the WOT shifting will be impossible without prematurely hitting the rev limiter, because a sensor on the transmission has to be adjusted.

As of right now, if a Predator customer of mine switches gears, they need to contact me for a new custom file that properly adjusts the transmission sensor, as well as the shift point mph, so the pcm will realize the gear change. The end-user does not have to send their Predator back in to do such, as all this can be done very easily via email/internet.

The next revision upgrade of the Predator (v1.04) should permanently correct this issue, so the end-user can adjust the specifications themselves properly. That should hopefully be due out next month, but there are no guarantees on that yet.

I hope this helps with your questions and concerns. If you should need anything else, please do not hesitate to contact me at your convenience.

Sincerely...

 

:withstupid:

 

James,
The program that I have does correct for tire size. When I install my DRs' (275/40/17) My speedo is off until I enter the new tire size in the predator. Once I do this everything lines up. Your statement above confuses me.

 

Thanks for the reply. One of the reasons I chose thePredator was its ability to be modified to suit engine mods, etc. I don't expect to be taking advantage of the extended return policy, with your clarification the Predator does everything it was advertised to do.