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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 10:48 AM
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Just a little FYI for all of you who may not know.

I decided to put Z06 brake pads on my '03 coupe. As recommended by the forum I picked up new rotors from NAPA. When I was at the counter the guy said, "you need left or right or both?" I said, "they're the same." He said, "they have different part numbers." So, whatever, I went home with new rotors. The difference is in the cooling vanes. They are angled versus perpendicular. So I do the brake job and install the rotors.

For whatever reason I had the wheel off and noticed the vanes were angled so they wouldnt scoop are in. Dam, so I swapped the rotors real quick. Well, the next day I'm doing a rotor/caliper paint test (more on that later) and notice the factory 'right' stamping and look at the vanes. They point the other way!!!! It turns out I had them installed correctly the first time. Well, I'm off the swap then again. It turns out the vanes are designed to pull are in from the center area near the hub versus pulling air in from the outer rim. Oh well.
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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 10:54 AM
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Ignore the holes, it really doesn't matter what direction they rotate in. The pictures are to show the direction of the internal vanes and the slots on the face of the rotor. Those must rotate in the proper fashion for the rotor to be effective.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...post1549577331


In street driving it's not that big a deal. But on the track you will see 10-15% higher temperature on the rotors going in the "wrong" direction.

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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 10:57 AM
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This is a GOOD note for the Do it yourself guys. Even pro's from time to time make mistakes. This is a good tip for everyone to remmber.
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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 11:28 AM
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When I did mine I noticed that they were different part numbers. So, I only did one side at a time and compaired it to the stock stamped rotor that I was removing. I did not look right to me at the time either but after checking I found out the same thing you did. I was just happy that I did not have to take it all apart again.
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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 11:30 AM
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On the C5/Z06 (stock or OEM replacements) they are directional. I've read that GM has made all the C6 rotors the same so one side will be backwards on the C6.

Easy way to tell if they are correct on the C5/Z06 as you put them on is to look straight down at the top of the rotor. The vanes should "point" rearwards.

You can visualize this looking at the first pic posted by Mighty Mouse above. That rotor would be a driver's side rotor being viewed from outside the car. You can see the top of the vanes pointing right, or backwards towards the rear of the car.

The reason for this is that the vanes act as a centrifugal pump as they rotate and pull air from the center out to the outer edge.
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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 12:49 PM
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I just did some brake work yesterday and noticed my stock rotors were stamped with LR, RR, etc. Nice to know!

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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by coast7
I just did some brake work yesterday and noticed my stock rotors were stamped with LR, RR, etc. Nice to know!

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That's correct for those bought directly from GM, but aftermarket OEM rotors such as those bought from NAPA do not have the same marking, which makes it easy to get them on wrong.
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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 07:27 PM
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Plan on doing this very activity in the near future. Thanks to all who've posted for the info!!!!
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this is a really helpful post, thanks for making it. bookmarked!
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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 08:11 PM
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Great infor, I will be installing mine next week
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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by jim2527
Just a little FYI for all of you who may not know.

I decided to put Z06 brake pads on my '03 coupe. As recommended by the forum I picked up new rotors from NAPA. When I was at the counter the guy said, "you need left or right or both?" I said, "they're the same." He said, "they have different part numbers." So, whatever, I went home with new rotors. The difference is in the cooling vanes. They are angled versus perpendicular. So I do the brake job and install the rotors.

For whatever reason I had the wheel off and noticed the vanes were angled so they wouldnt scoop are in. Dam, so I swapped the rotors real quick. Well, the next day I'm doing a rotor/caliper paint test (more on that later) and notice the factory 'right' stamping and look at the vanes. They point the other way!!!! It turns out I had them installed correctly the first time. Well, I'm off the swap then again. It turns out the vanes are designed to pull are in from the center area near the hub versus pulling air in from the outer rim. Oh well.
Just to expand on this a little. A rotor should never blow air towards the wheel bearing. This can ruin the wheel bearings in a very short period of time during hard brake usage. The heat MUST be evacuated out the top of the rotor not down towards the center. As you have observed, and the drawings show, the fins point backwards and do not "scoop" the air when the wheel is moving forward.
It would also be couterproductive to try to force air to the center as that would be fighting centrifugal force.

I label each rotor as soon as I get them to make sure I don't get in a hurry and put them on the wrong side.

Next time you are at a car show with a bunch "show rotors" feel the vanes and see which way they point. I, usually, manage to find a couple of cars with the rotors on the wrong side!

Also have found some on tech inspects for track events.
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Old Jan 31, 2005 | 01:16 PM
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Several C6 owners on the C6 side of the forum are really pizzed at Chevy because they have the same exact rotor on the left front and the right front. They probably wouldn't have noticed if it weren't for the spiral cross-drilled hole pattern. Some have been told by Chevy that it really doesn't make much differance for a street driven car. Whatever else they also told owners, they are not getting the correct rotor for one wheel. What was that book by DeLorian, "On a clear day you can see General Motors"?
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Old Jan 31, 2005 | 02:39 PM
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OK so why is it every car I see around town has there rotors going in the wrong direction? I was starting to wonder if I put mine on backwards but they are stamped lf rf rr lr. Or are the ricers and other high performance cars rotors holes drilled in reverse direction that the fins are cast? Or is this just the new cool look, to be azz backwards?
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Old Jan 31, 2005 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Mighty-Mouse


http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...post1549577331


In street driving it's not that big a deal. But on the track you will see 10-15% higher temperature on the rotors going in the "wrong" direction.
thank you....i just checked mine, they were correct....
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Old Jan 31, 2005 | 04:59 PM
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I learn something new everyday. Thanks for posting.
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Old Jan 31, 2005 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by C54DAZ
OK so why is it every car I see around town has there rotors going in the wrong direction? I was starting to wonder if I put mine on backwards but they are stamped lf rf rr lr. Or are the ricers and other high performance cars rotors holes drilled in reverse direction that the fins are cast? Or is this just the new cool look, to be azz backwards?
The drilling pattern doesn't make any difference, it's the inside vanes that do the work. So some may be mounted correctly, others may be mounted backwards because the owner "thought" they were correct because the drill pattern looked better. HEY... maybe that's why they wear their hats backwards, they think it cools better...

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Just picture the vanes that close together spinning that fast there wouldn't be much scooping happening that's why they go the other way and create vacuum to draw the air out. That is why spindle ducts blow the air IN to the center to let the vanes pull it out.
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Originally Posted by John Shiels
Just picture the vanes that close together spinning that fast there wouldn't be much scooping happening that's why they go the other way and create vacuum to draw the air out. That is why spindle ducts blow the air IN to the center to let the vanes pull it out.

Think centrifugal force and you'll understand it better.
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Originally Posted by Mighty-Mouse


http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...post1549577331


In street driving it's not that big a deal. But on the track you will see 10-15% higher temperature on the rotors going in the "wrong" direction.
It's always nice to be reminded now & then on these easily forgotten or overlooked instructions. Especially when us novice mechanic don't do a brakes job too often.
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by runamuk

Think centrifugal force and you'll understand it better.
Yep, it's just like having a fan on your wheels!

Now on those pictures posted, it appears that both of those slotted/cross-drilled rotors are going "backwards"? Are the internal vanes still pointed rearward like the stock ones though? Otherwise, it would seem they're not going to be working effectively?!
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