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Old Feb 2, 2005 | 09:02 PM
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Running on Drag radials is it nessesary to do a big a$$ burnout in the water box? What are most of you doing on simple boltons.

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Old Feb 2, 2005 | 09:07 PM
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Running on Drag radials is it nessesary to do a big a$$ burnout in the water box? What are most of you doing on simple boltons.

Adam
I was running the CCW's with BFG's (see the ad in F/S) small easy burnout 1.88 60' with stock A4. Now running ET Streets and i'm only gettin 1.86 60' same small burnout with both tires. No real wheel spin I just need more motor. Simple bolt ons, airbox, headers, tuning, tires.
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Old Feb 2, 2005 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by killaz
Running on Drag radials is it nessesary to do a big a$$ burnout in the water box? What are most of you doing on simple boltons.

Adam
good ?.i'm going to the track next month for the 1st w/ my car.
very sad 402 @ the rears and never been.
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Old Feb 2, 2005 | 09:18 PM
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Of course these are my opinions but has worked for me well enough to get 1.5 60 fts on Nittos.

Never run a treaded tire through the water box. (water sits in the tread and when you stage the car water pools under tires)

Bake the hell out of those drag radials! I spin them until the whole car is engulphed in smoke then let off the brakes and spin up to the line.
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Old Feb 3, 2005 | 02:38 AM
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Nitto's need a heavy 7-8 sec burn Bfg's need a 4-6 sec burn and the new M/T drags only need a 3 sec burnout.
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Running on Drag radials is it nessesary to do a big a$$ burnout in the water box? What are most of you doing on simple boltons.

Adam
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Old Feb 3, 2005 | 06:29 AM
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NO! Keep'em dry. Check out my Pilot Sports 60 foot time in the sig.
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Only time a strong burnout is necessary is the first time you run new drag radials. After that, a light smoke will suffice. Smokey burnouts are for show only. Oh and the tire mfg. like them too.
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Old Feb 3, 2005 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by killaz
Running on Drag radials is it nessesary to do a big a$$ burnout in the water box? What are most of you doing on simple boltons. Adam
Here is what BFG sez:

Thank you for visiting our Web site and sending us your e-mail.

For street use, always follow the vehicle manufacturer's recommendation for
inflation pressure. At the strip, your ideal pressure is a function of four
things: the projected trap speed of your car, the 60-foot times, it's
ready-to-race weight and the width of it's wheels. For heavier cars using
smaller tires, start around 20 psi. For lighter cars, or for heavier cars using
larger tires, start around 18 psi. When rims narrower than the "measuring rim'"
are used, increase pressures by 2 psi. For cars with trap speeds over 120 MPH,
we recommend a minimum starting pressure of 20 psi. Never go below 12 psi at the
strip.

To get the most bite from your G-Force T/A Drag Radials, we suggest heat cycling
them before your first race. Do this by making a couple of passes at the strip
to bring the tires up to operating temperature. Then allow the tires to rest
without running them for at least 24 hours. This secondary curing process
stabilizes the tread compound for better performance and more consistent times.

Before slaying the tree, it's best to warm the tires by performing a modest
burnout. If you choose to use the water box, don't drown the tires, just touch
the water. Then ease away from the water box, turning the tires over with just a
hint of smoke (enough to clean the tires off). You're now ready to hook up, so
proceed immediately to the staging area.

If you have additional questions, please respond to this email
or you may call us at 1-877-788-8899 (toll-free) between
8:30AM and 6:00PM Eastern Time Monday through Friday to allow
one of our Consumer Relations Representatives to assist you.

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Originally Posted by killaz
Running on Drag radials is it nessesary to do a big a$$ burnout in the water box? What are most of you doing on simple boltons.Adam
Every car & driver will be different but for me:
Pull into water box spin, through lightly until on the other side.
5-8 sec burnout, 1 dry hop and stage...........
97' stroker & more........345/35/18 bfg drs = 1.52-1.55 60' all day
00' vert w/ bolt-ons.......275/35/18 bfg drs = 1.72-1.75 60' all day
16-19psi hot for both
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Originally Posted by INTHERED
Here is what BFG sez:

Thank you for visiting our Web site and sending us your e-mail.

For street use, always follow the vehicle manufacturer's recommendation for
inflation pressure. At the strip, your ideal pressure is a function of four
things: the projected trap speed of your car, the 60-foot times, it's
ready-to-race weight and the width of it's wheels. For heavier cars using
smaller tires, start around 20 psi. For lighter cars, or for heavier cars using
larger tires, start around 18 psi. When rims narrower than the "measuring rim'"
are used, increase pressures by 2 psi. For cars with trap speeds over 120 MPH,
we recommend a minimum starting pressure of 20 psi. Never go below 12 psi at the
strip.

To get the most bite from your G-Force T/A Drag Radials, we suggest heat cycling
them before your first race. Do this by making a couple of passes at the strip
to bring the tires up to operating temperature. Then allow the tires to rest
without running them for at least 24 hours. This secondary curing process
stabilizes the tread compound for better performance and more consistent times.

Before slaying the tree, it's best to warm the tires by performing a modest
burnout. If you choose to use the water box, don't drown the tires, just touch
the water. Then ease away from the water box, turning the tires over with just a
hint of smoke (enough to clean the tires off). You're now ready to hook up, so
proceed immediately to the staging area.

If you have additional questions, please respond to this email
or you may call us at 1-877-788-8899 (toll-free) between
8:30AM and 6:00PM Eastern Time Monday through Friday to allow
one of our Consumer Relations Representatives to assist you.

BFGoodrich Tires
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I think that's what I said, but with a lot fewer words. Gheesh.
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Old Feb 3, 2005 | 04:40 PM
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Whats the best way to do a burnout in an A4?
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Old Feb 3, 2005 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by IMQUIK
NO! Keep'em dry. Check out my Pilot Sports 60 foot time in the sig.
What was your elevation at the track? Was it above sea level or under or whatever? Thanks!
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Old Feb 3, 2005 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by boarddirector
Only time a strong burnout is necessary is the first time you run new drag radials. After that, a light smoke will suffice. Smokey burnouts are for show only. Oh and the tire mfg. like them too.
I totally disagree here. Ive got about 2500 passses under my belt with 99% of them being using BFG comp TA drag radial, nitto 555Rs and the new BFG Gforce tire. Every one of those tires hooked better after a burnout long enough to see smoke. I'm cutting consistant lox 1.7 60' times with a fairly stock car launching at 2500 rpms. If i do a short burnout or a dry hop the launch quality is hit and miss. Doing a burnout until I see smoke has always worked for me. My car runs .010 pass to pass.

Dave
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That BFG recommendation is almost comical.

Bottom line: The hotter you get them the stickier they will be. If the person in the other lane takes his time staging you will regreat just cleaning them off.
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Originally Posted by Nick 02 Z06
Of course these are my opinions but has worked for me well enough to get 1.5 60 fts on Nittos.

Never run a treaded tire through the water box. (water sits in the tread and when you stage the car water pools under tires)

Bake the hell out of those drag radials! I spin them until the whole car is engulphed in smoke then let off the brakes and spin up to the line.
Doing a small burnout with drag radials netted me the same 60ft times as the michelin rf(1.80). my next time
at the track(spring) I'm going to try a longer burnout and flashing the convertor. Or a combination of the two...... should get me a better 60ft. time than I had in 2004.
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Originally Posted by KamPow3r
What was your elevation at the track? Was it above sea level or under or whatever? Thanks!
Cam power... I do'nt see a signature or anybodies for that matter. Is it in my settings??
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