Let me know what you find out cause mine is being towed on Tuesday cause I cant pull it out of the garage without it shutting down. I have tried everything, this will the fourth time to the dealer since the recall. The dealer told me last time he put one of the old relays back in to correct the problem. I dont know?

 

This whole topic is confusing to me. It seems we are dealing with more than one problem here.

Column lock
Fuel cut secondary to mis-information to the computer or sensor failure.


I don't know if I have had any recall work done or not and am not sure how to tell. I have read the post and have looked at the fuse box under the passenger side foot well. Nothing looks modified. Also as far as I know, my column has never been locked nor have I had any problems with it.

My problem is not the column lock it self as it does not appear to be working or locked. My problem is the error message and the fuel cut when trying to drive the car.

I have a MTI 427 car with a recient tune and do not want to take the car to GM at all.

Once my car has this error and fuel cut and the wheel moves fine am I screwed? Will a bypass fix this? I just can't figure out what to do for sure.

I am starting to wish I bought a used 911 TT.

Jeff

 

Please do the following and you'll be driving your car out of your garage instead of having it towed. Assuming you have a MN6 or MN12 tranny, AND you had the recall work performed by the dealer, go into the passenger footwell under your BCM and locate the extra relay that the dealer installed. There are instructions on this thread that explain how to remove the relay and bypass the wiring which basically restores your car back to stock condition. Once that is done, install your CLB. This should get you going again. Please post and let us know your progress.
John

 

Jeff,
it sounds like you've had the recall. I might have been installed at the factory. You didn't mention what year, what tranny and whether you had a Z06 or not. My advice would be to remove the trim panel under your steering column and find the wiring harness connecting your ECL to your BCM.
1. Is the harnes connected?
2. Do you have a CLB installed?
3. the wiring harness going from your ECL to your BCM will have 4 wires. Stock is orange, purple, green, black. If you've had the mod installed, the harness to your BCM will have white, purple, green, black. If you've had the mod, then I recommend that you find that relay under the BCM and remove/bypass it following instructions in this thread. Once you do that, install a CLB and you should be in good shape. I hope this helps.
Cheers,
John

 

Thank you.

My car is a 2000 coup with a MTI 427 Z07 package. I am guessing it has the recall done but can't find it. From what you are saying, I need to take out/ remove the BCM to see it? I am not exactly sure what I am looking for as this is my first Corvette.

I will post if this works for me.

Pics of all of these parts would be very helpfull in this sticky. It would make going out there a snap if I knew which and where if you know what I mean.

I will try to figure it out and do some more reading.

Thanks again.

Jeff

 

had recall done said they installed the relay kit , but I noticed that my sterring wheel will still lock when I shut off, I thought they put some blank off plate or somthing in the column to prevent pin from locking or is that all they do with the A4

 

Well, here is my story. I got it fixed by the way.

Car suddenly got the service column lock message etc... and would not drive but would run fine. My column was not locked and would turn fine. I towed it home and immediatly checked here for advice.

Talked to Cscokd on the phone and he walked me through the basics of the wireing involved and I found out I had the factory relay installed but we could not find it. I had the orange wire going in and the white wire comming out of the Column lock harness under the drivers dash. It should be an orange wire comming from the column lock and that wire goes to a plug and another orange wire goes to the A8 slot on the BCM. If you have the GM fix, you will have a white wire comming out of the harness going to some type of relay and then an orange wire comming out of it to the BCM.
The first thing we tried is to bypass this relay by jumping the orange wire comming out of A8 in the BCM harness around the white wire and to the Column lock. I just cut the white wire under the drivers dash and ran a new wire from the orange wire on the BCM to the cut end of the white wire comming out of the plug.

I pulled the 25 fuse again and retried the key and still got the pull key and wait etc... and continued to have fuel cut when I moved the car.

I walked up to my front door where the friendly UPS man left me a package ( Column lock simulator) I walked back to the garage and followed the directions. I turned on the key, pulled fuse 25 again, walked around to the drivers side and plugged the simulator into the Column lock harness. I replaced the fuse and turned the key off. I turned the key back on and WAla, the thing works like a charm.

I am soooo glad I did not have to take this car to GM as they would have messed up my tune for sure and I bet my 427 would not like the stock tune at all

I just want to say thanks to Cscokd and this great board for all the good information and for giving me the satisfaction of fixing my own car.

Now just have to put the car back together.

Thanks again. This board is great

Jeff

 

When I get the opportunity to help you folks and hear positive feedback, it really makes my day! Glad to hear you're back in business again Jeff. Enjoy your ride. Darn, wish I had a 427..
John

 

I received a call yesterday 7-27 from GM and they stated the area representative in charge of recalls etc was out of the area and wont be back until Monday. The lady stated she thought the recall would probably be paid for but was not postive. I just do not understand why it takes so long to decide on such a problematic issue. I do not want to let this go too long. I am anticipating a check for about $240.00 which doesn't cover the overnited Column Lock Bypass. I also have to obtain the plastic piece on the right passenger side door which the dealership broke and the little piece on the passenger side door panel that covers a couple screws. I still dont know why they took the door panels off. As far as the car....its running fine and this is the only problem I have ever had with the car other than the rocking seat which I have not and probably will leave as. The C6 is looking better all the time. ..

 

Hello all,

I'm looking for a little feed back from those who have had the CLB recall done for the A4. I had mine done about two weeks ago, and since then, my steering has a "looseness" that wasn't there before. It seems to occur mostly when the wheel is turned past 10:00 and 2:00 and then brought back to center. Has anyone else had a change to the feel of the steering once the recall was done?

 

Well after nothing worked I had no choice but to call the dealership and have it towed back to them. This will be the 3rd time since the recall but the dealership did foot the bill for the truck and said that they fixed it after having it for 4 days. They said it was the BCM and replaced it at no charge. I picked it up tonight we will see what happens

 

Gthomas.... I hate to be the bearer of bad news but I had mine to the dealership 3 times for the column lock problem. I dont know if it is fixed for sure but it has been working for over a week now with no problems. I ended up having the dealership install the column lock bypass that I purchased on my own. I am still waiting for a call from GM to determine whether or not they will reimburse me for over $200 for my second time in and another tow job for the third attempt at repairing the service column and wait ten seconds pull key problems. Mine broke on the morning of a major corvette event and my fiancee' and I had to wait 7 hours before getting out of the dealership to go the the Black Hills Corvette Classic. GM is supposed to call me today with the results of their investigation. There were 2 other Corvettes besides mine that had the same column lock problem. One guy from Canada was stuck in Sioux Falls and the other car layed down on them in Spearfish SD. I still am quite upset over my mishap. Good luck to you. I have over $400 out of pocket expense for this problem.

 

Just got a call from GM....the gal that was supposed to call me today with an answer is out of the office and they called to let me know they are still in the research process. I am starting to feel like I am getting the run-around here on this recall issue. I may not be buying or supporting GM anymore.

 

Here's another one to add to the list of recall screwups. Took the car to the dealer, they did the recall and the next day I got the message and the fuel cut-off. The dealer is telling me that it is a bad actuator adn it's NOT covered by the recall. It's going to be $470.00 for tow, the part, and labor. This thing is getting sold ASAP!!

 

Belair55....this is just plain not right. GM should cover this under recall. What I do not understand is why they dont fix it right the first time or else just install the column lock bypass. From what I have read the column lock bypass works great if the vehicle has not been previously messed up by the dealership. Take a printout of this and see if it can be paid for in small claims court or go further up the ladder at GM. Like I said previously, my car and another corvette were both broken down at the same dealership in Sioux Falls and another C5 broke down the next day in Spearfish SD with the same problem. Why cant they get this right. I am still waiting for my call from GM to see if I get re-imbursed for the problem.

 

Sorry you folks are having such a terrible and stressful experience with the column lock issue. Once you get it really fixed, you'll enjoy it again...trust me. I am really disappointed in the overall quality of the recall fix. Seems there are just too many problems that are occuring after they do the recall mod. Once again I recommend you install the CLB yourself and forget the dealers. I would be glad to personally assist anyone in my area that might encounter column lock problems. PM me anytime.
Regards,
John

 

Anybody who thinks this latest round of recalls is going fix the problem, is crazy. I had my recall done 1 month ago, and just suffered the dreaded lock yesterday. Luckily I had a CLB ready to go, and was able to get it unlocked. I learned my lesson.

 

*cough* $240 doesn't cover the overnighted cost of the column lock bypass? Did you order other mods with that CLB?

 

Torchredfrc: If you read back a few pages my original bill from Lithia Cheverolet was approx $192.00 for a fuse and to reconnect a white wire which was actually cut in order for my Euro lights to work correctly. The other $45.00 was for the second tow in to the dealership two days after the $192.00 fix. The dealership also said it was a dirty battery cable but my engine compartment is so ungodly clean you could eat off the top of the motor. The CLB was over approx. $129.00 since it was from someone who had it in stock and I paid to have it shipped overnight. I do not believe I am out of line by trying to obtain some money back from a recall problem.

 

Well, I just got off the phone with the recall dept @ GM. THEY REFUSED TO PAY FOR THE WORK AND TOWING SINCE THEY CLAIMED IT WAS A PROBLEM WITH A BLOWN #25 FUSE. NO WONDER GM IS HAVING PROBLEMS. THEIR QUALITY IS JUST NOT THERE COMPARED WITH OTHER AUTOMAKERS. GOOD LUCK ALL YOU FORUM MEMBERS....TRYING TO GET GM TO STAND BEHIND THEIR PRODUCTS IS JUST PLAIN IMPOSSIBLE. YA GOTTA LOVE THE ROCKING SEATS, STEERING COLUMN LOCK UPS, POOR OIL PRESSURE SENSORS, POOR MOTORS IN 2001'S AND LEAKING REAR ENDS. I FORGOT TO MENTION POOR QUALITY SEATS AND REMOVEABLE TOPS THAT SHOW HAIRLINE STRESS CRACKS AFTER A COUPLE YEARS AND BRAKE ROTORS THAT WARP PREMATURELY. DONT EVEN TRY TO SETTLE A DISPUTE WITH THIS COMPANY....YOU WILL LOSE.