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Old Jul 22, 2016 | 11:06 PM
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Long story short. Have owned my 02 10k mile Z for seven years (bought/stole it with 3k). Knew an issue was out there about column lock when I bought it after reading all of your great posts, 7 years ago.

Fast forward to today when I took my car in for inspection. There is an open recall. Puzzled, I ask what for and guess what, it's for the column lock. First off, I'm annoyed that I've taking my car to the same CHEVY dealer since I have owned it and just NOW they found this recall!? WTF. After reading (some of the 106 pages) of this thread I think I will just have them take the lock plate out and be done with the whole mess. A friend I talked to today did the same thing, at the same dealer and they didn't charge him anything. Kinda curious what you all think but my mind is mostly made up
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Old Jul 22, 2016 | 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Bleacher Bum
Long story short. Have owned my 02 10k mile Z for seven years (bought/stole it with 3k). Knew an issue was out there about column lock when I bought it after reading all of your great posts, 7 years ago.

Fast forward to today when I took my car in for inspection. There is an open recall. Puzzled, I ask what for and guess what, it's for the column lock. First off, I'm annoyed that I've taking my car to the same CHEVY dealer since I have owned it and just NOW they found this recall!? WTF. After reading (some of the 106 pages) of this thread I think I will just have them take the lock plate out and be done with the whole mess. A friend I talked to today did the same thing, at the same dealer and they didn't charge him anything. Kinda curious what you all think but my mind is mostly made up
I installed the lmc5 kit and it didn't work. I called the number on the web site and talked to Richard. He's the only guy there. Very knowledgeable about this problem. Found out there are different BCM versions I have a 98 built in Feb that required a different kit which he shipped free of charge. Long story short. I would call Richard and talk with him about the problem. I believe he can help. (855) 565-8388
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Old Aug 2, 2016 | 04:41 PM
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I have a 2000 MN6 and I am getting this code on dash "check Steering lock...car won't run. This has stranded me twice. I called Dealer checked the v toin and this car has had the recall done. My question is if the bypass has been done then why is it failing? Is there anything I can do to make it stop?
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Old Aug 2, 2016 | 04:43 PM
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That is supposed to be vin not v toin..
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Old Aug 2, 2016 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 8VETTE7
To begin with the most likely cause of your symptoms is a weak or bad battery or loose or corroded battery cables including at the starter.

Next, if the car has had the GM Recall service ( which is NOT a bypass) then the car is doing what the recall is designed to have done when the BCM thinks the column is locked when it should be unlocked. Doesn't matter whether the column is physically locked, only that the BCM thinks it is locked when it should not be locked. Namely it is preventing the car from being driven, EXACTLY what the NHTSA required be done.

Your post indicates you are an obvious newbie to the C5 Column Lock Syndrome, despite being a Forum member since 2010, and haven't taken the time to read much if any of the above recent posts relative to purchasing and installing an LMC5 to get around the Column Lock Symptoms.

The GM Column Lock recall was mandated by the NHTSA NOT because the column locks, but rather because under certain conditions it is possible to DRIVE the car with the column locked. A clear safety issue. The 2mph fuel shutoff that you are experiencing is GM's solution to keep that from happening.

Suggest that you go to this site:


http://complianceparts.com/


Read about and then order and install an LMC5 to be rid of the column lock symptoms once and for all.

While you are waiting for the LMC5 to arrive have your battery tested.

The engine will start with 12.2 volts or less measured across the battery posts with the neg battery cable disconnected but the C5 electronics will NOT be happy if the voltage is 12.5 volts or less.


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the column lock system electronics.
Thank you for the info. I have ordered the LMC5 and will be going to the dealership to pick up a new AC Decor battery.
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Old Aug 8, 2016 | 02:19 PM
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WOW... long thread... spent the last hour on it...

Frustrated..

2000 C5 chevy corvette auto.... has had the recall and dealer fix and the steering wheel does NOT lock... BUT, I do get the "service column lock"

The battery was bad... way bad... and i am sure voltage spikes from hell with battery chargers and the like...

So, I think from reading that the computer has UN-sinked from the switch... I disconnected the battery for 2 hours while i got a new one from Sears, same problem... disconnected the mod cable under the dash drivers side and then reconnected several times with switch on or switch off... removed and replaced the fuses under the dash and passenger floorboard per page 1.. no effect....


SO, how do i re-sync the column lock to the computer.. ?????

My wife so wants to drive her C5.... I'm quite happy with my C3:-)
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Old Aug 8, 2016 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 8VETTE7
Insufficient info to know what has or has not been done to the column lock system, whether or not the passenger foot well has gotten wet and hence the BCM and/or the Column Lock relay has gotten wet etc, etc, to give you a guaranteed answer.

My suggestion is to order and install an LMC5. It essentially abandons all the column lock wiring downstream of the BCM so it does not matter what mods were done either by the Column Lock Recall Service or installation of a CLB etc. LMC5 installs right at the BCM. So unless the BCM has gotten wet, it should provide a one time and permanent solution to the column lock symptoms.

Go to this site and read about and then order and install the LMC5:

www.complianceparts.com
nothing wet.. been parked in the garage for 2 years,,, driven 3 times in that period during southern California summer... only has 15K miles on it.


is there a way to re-sync the computer to the lock?
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Old Aug 8, 2016 | 03:26 PM
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isn't the LMC5 for manual, and the A for automatic?

anyway... I did read on the first page that they can be reset/ re-sync'ed but I have not been able to achieve this???

I stopped on page 30ish,, went to end, and read backward 8 pages...
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Originally Posted by 8VETTE7
Only the 97 - 2000 automatic trans cars experience the column lock problem. All manual trans C5's ( 97-2004) also experience the column lock symptoms. 2001 - 2004 automatic trans cars seldom experience the column lock symptoms but they are NOT immune from the symptoms.

The LMC5 doesn't care whether the car is automatic or manual. Works for both.

Good luck with the re-sync.........
Thank you.., I will continue to try for a few days to achieve the re-sync, with some research...
if that does pan out, I will build one myself per the directions on page 1.



Really just want to get it re-synced... was doing fine until i let the battery go to hell.

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Old Aug 30, 2016 | 10:31 AM
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I have the a similar issue. I noticed my battery was a 2012 version and I have access to new AC Delco batteries for $10 here at my factory. They are slightly higher CCA, etc, but new within the last couple months cause we take them out of our chassis. (GM sends with dual batteries and we only need a single)

Anyway I thought I'd just put a new one in and toss out the aging battery. (Old battery wasn't giving me issues)

Boom - Next thing I know I go to start the car and the new battery is dead probably from sitting here on pallet for a couple months. So... I had it jumped and drove to the mechanic to do some other work thinking the battery will be all charged up and by the time I get there I see the "Remove Key, Column Lock" message when i park. I remove key not knowing what's up and restart just to see if it starts and it does. Mechanics call later and say car dies when in gear and reads me that message. Yada yada yada

We confirm the car has the GM recall fix on it. the only change is the different battery. (Prior I've never had this issue happen ever) We did try another battery from here at work with the same results. they also charged that battery over lunch to make sure and it load tested out ok. So with that said, I'm thinking I'll stick the old battery back in and see what happens first.

I've pulled the #23 fuse, checked the #25, etc.

Mechanics are suggesting a relay w/harness is bad. I don't want to just throw money at that since it's like $127 for that relay w/harness.

Thoughts?

Originally Posted by pauldana
Thank you.., I will continue to try for a few days to achieve the re-sync, with some research...
if that does pan out, I will build one myself per the directions on page 1.



Really just want to get it re-synced... was doing fine until i let the battery go to hell.

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Old Aug 30, 2016 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by mscheuler
I have the a similar issue. I noticed my battery was a 2012 version and I have access to new AC Delco batteries for $10 here at my factory. They are slightly higher CCA, etc, but new within the last couple months cause we take them out of our chassis. (GM sends with dual batteries and we only need a single)

Anyway I thought I'd just put a new one in and toss out the aging battery. (Old battery wasn't giving me issues)

Boom - Next thing I know I go to start the car and the new battery is dead probably from sitting here on pallet for a couple months. So... I had it jumped and drove to the mechanic to do some other work thinking the battery will be all charged up and by the time I get there I see the "Remove Key, Column Lock" message when i park. I remove key not knowing what's up and restart just to see if it starts and it does. Mechanics call later and say car dies when in gear and reads me that message. Yada yada yada

We confirm the car has the GM recall fix on it. the only change is the different battery. (Prior I've never had this issue happen ever) We did try another battery from here at work with the same results. they also charged that battery over lunch to make sure and it load tested out ok. So with that said, I'm thinking I'll stick the old battery back in and see what happens first.

I've pulled the #23 fuse, checked the #25, etc.

Mechanics are suggesting a relay w/harness is bad. I don't want to just throw money at that since it's like $127 for that relay w/harness.

Thoughts?


I removed the factory K harness that was GM's fix and put in the aftermarket relay fix... BUT, I got mine on eBay for $30 including shipping... and it works great.. it is just a fridgen rely, so anyone that charges you $130 is bending you over... its a $5 part... if that..

Anyway, that fixed it..

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Hi,
It's been a year since I installed the LMC5, but I still get the "remove key, wait ten sec.". Before I try the brown wire mod, would you describe what you did exactly? The instructions are a bit vague, the brown wire is mentioned three times in different sections.
Battery is good, hooked up to a maintainer 24/7.
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The LMC5 fixed my ongoing problem. I also had to do the "brown wire mod". Easy peasy, wish I would have done it a long time ago instead of fighting the problem.
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Old Sep 18, 2016 | 05:41 PM
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how do i know if the previous owner did the recall and/or the steering lock bypass?
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Old Sep 18, 2016 | 09:05 PM
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oh crap sorry! yes my vette is a 2003 c5 z06 manual tranny 50th anny and its also a canadian car if that helps!

Thanks!
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thank you very much!! When you say column lock that means the steering wheel cannot be turned correct?
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ok perfect ill check first thing in the morning but im pretty sure it locks...

Thanks again!
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