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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 10:29 PM
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i know the z06 and c5 manifolds are different and apparently work pretty good
i read in hot rod this month when they did theyre cam intake swap on the new c6 in which they tell you the ls6 intake is better than the ls2 intake
in the graphs i notice they swapped the manifolds off the ls2 in favor of ls6 (Z06) manifolds
so i got to tthinking how much more power could you expect to get on a base c5 with z06 manifolds
also anybody got any they want to get rid of
thanks in advance
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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 10:36 PM
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also will the z06 manifolds bolt up to the stock h-pipe
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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 11:20 PM
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From what I have read on here, Z06 manifolds are just shy of shorty headers however lots of people almost give them away. It's about like swapping in a Z06 cam though, for that much effort, spend the money and buy some thing that will make some power like long tube headers.
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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 11:30 PM
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i can get a set for 50 bucks that why i was asking
will the h pipe work with it as well
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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 11:35 PM
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I didn't see the article, but it sounds like initially you're talking about the intake manifold, but then change to the exhaust?
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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 11:45 PM
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im actually talking about both
they do a cam swapon the c6 and at the same time they test intakes as well as manifolds and the results were that the cammed car made more power with the ls6 manifolds and the ls6 intake as opposed to the new ls2 versions of intake and manifold
so basically the ls6 intake and manifolds are superior to the ls2 design
in other words all you guys that wanted to start putting c6 parts on your c5s ls1 or ls6 or better off with the ls6 parts
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by gmosley
im actually talking about both
they do a cam swapon the c6 and at the same time they test intakes as well as manifolds and the results were that the cammed car made more power with the ls6 manifolds and the ls6 intake as opposed to the new ls2 versions of intake and manifold
so basically the ls6 intake and manifolds are superior to the ls2 design
in other words all you guys that wanted to start putting c6 parts on your c5s ls1 or ls6 or better off with the ls6 parts

Ok - you're a tad confused on several points. First: manifolds are found both on the intake and exhaust. There are intake manifolds and exhaust manifolds - your terminology doesn't recognize this. Second: The LS6 intake manifold is indeed superior to the first version of the LS1 intake manifold - but of course, this is negated as of 2001 when all intake manifolds put on corvettes was switched over to the LS6 version. So if you have a 2001 or later C5, you've got the LS6 intake manifold. As for the LS2 intake, initial attempts have proven unsuccessful, but Graham at LPE thinks FAST will be disappointed when everyone realizes that this intake is indeed superior to the LS6 design - but tuning is necessary, and noone can do so yet.

As for the exhaust manifolds on the LS2 - they are worse than the LS6 version due to the fact that the catalysts are crammed up high, very close to the exhaust ports - this doesn't allow for a smooth exhaust flow. The LS6 units are longer, and more closely approximate a header, with the cats mounted underneath the car. If you really want performance though, skip them both, and put on long tube headers, which will blow them both away.
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Be more clear so people can help.
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 11:21 AM
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actually i was clear on what i wanted to know i just threw in the intake comment to try to let everyone know that the ls6 versions of the intake manifold and exhaust manifolds were superior to the new ls2 versions
there have been numerous threads talking about the new ls2 intake and how they couldnt wait to bolt it on there ls6 or ls1 motors
just trying to save people some money
but anyways back to the original question will the z06 manifolds bolt up to the factory h-pipe on my c5
yes i know long tubes are better and will outperform them but i can get a set of the z06 manifolds(flow better than stock) for 50 bucks as a set of longtubes is 1000
comparing the 2 (z06 vs longtubes ) i know 40 hp is probable for long tubes where im not sure on z06 (once again better than stock)
so ive basically got 50 bucks vs 1000 bucks minimum
and say presumably 5 hp vs 40hp
you see what im getting at
i dont have the money to spend a grand on headers but i do have 50 bucks
im not asking for suggestions on what to do
what i want to know is
WILL MY FACTORY H-PIPE BOLT UP TO ZO6 MANIFOLDS OR WHAT HAS TO BE DONE TO DO SO AND HOW MUCH GAIN COULD I EXPECT FROM THIS IF ANY
50 bucks plus the price of the gaskets for a few hp is hard to beat plus i like the knowledge of changing them myself anyways
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 02:33 PM
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Proper grammar is your friend....
Punctuation and capital letters aren't that difficult to master, are they??
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 02:45 PM
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From what I read on this forum the ZO6 exhaust manifolds will bolt to the engine no problem,
but they will not match up to your oem H pipe, you will need the H pipe from a ZO6.
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 05:37 PM
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This poor guy is asking a simple question why is everyone giving him so much sh^t. I feel like I am back in grammer school with Mrs. Peabody.
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 06:12 PM
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1st post by gmosley refers to intake manifolds and cams.

2nd post by gmosley refers to using the same H pipe.

3rd post by gmosley refers to both intake AND exhaust manifolds.

4th post by gmosley was a bunch of gibberish, but I was able to make out something about 50 vs 1000.


Grammar doesn't have to be 100% exact, but English is how we communicate in the U.S. Since we are on a web forum which requires us to write to express ourselves, something that resembles AT LEAST a 3rd grade reading/writing level is important.

I'm really not trying to be an A-hole, but people who expect me to decipher their scrambled run on sentences, etc.. are one of my pet peeves. I don't think it's too much to ask for someone to use at least a couple of the rules that were taught in grade school english to communicate effectively with others.
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 06:17 PM
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I understood what he was asking.
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Regardless of all of that....I think all C5s (LS1s and Z06s) had the same exact exhaust manifolds from 2002-2004 (and of course we already know the intake manifolds are the same from 2001-2004).
And yes, the newer exhaust manifolds are better than the older ones but no where near what a good long tube will give you.
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Old Mar 2, 2005 | 07:56 AM
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thanks vette america you answered my question
sandstone here you go
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decipher that wizard
if you dont like the way i type dont read it because saying nothing at all contributes the same amount of info that you have submitted on the question already none
thank you
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Old Mar 2, 2005 | 07:59 AM
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sandstone you have a 1992 mitsubishi 3000 gt vr4 what exactly can you contribute about vettes on a first hand expierience

maybe youve washed one before
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I want to know more about miss Peabody
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I want to know more about this miss Peabody
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Old Mar 2, 2005 | 09:35 AM
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I want to know more about this miss Peabody
She may have taught him grammar, but she sure didn't teach shurite44 spelling.

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And, back on topic, isn't the "H-pipe" the thingy that connects the two sides of the exhaust after the catalytic converters? So, how would I bolt the Z06 exhaust manifolds to that? They would make a hell of a racket going over speed bumps, no?
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