Shift Kit Or Hypertech
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Mike, I prefaced my original post as my opinion...
I completely disagree with your implication with the phrase "extreme and limited useage". The kit is beneficial in several respects over the stock tranny; including correcting several existing issues, oiling, cooling, reduced splipage, as well as seletable performance shift enhancement for anything from stock shift feel, to spirited driving, to autocrossing, to full out drag racing.
As far as your assumption that I "somehow incorrectly thought"... It was not my intent to go into detail about various programmers - I fully understand how they work, and they are the wrong way to increase performance in my opinion.
I think there is more than enough info in this thread to assist the originator with making a decision.
Also, would you please stop editing your posts, altering their intent and meaning, after I respond to them.
"I will provide my opinion in defense of".
As far as your assumption that I "somehow incorrectly thought"... It was not my intent to go into detail about various programmers - I fully understand how they work, and they are the wrong way to increase performance in my opinion.
I think there is more than enough info in this thread to assist the originator with making a decision.
Also, would you please stop editing your posts, altering their intent and meaning, after I respond to them.
Last edited by KRK; Mar 21, 2005 at 10:23 PM.
Burning Brakes
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I have both, you will never get the desired results you are looking for from the Hypertech. Original owner of my 99' had the Hypertech set on 100% firmness & eventually ate up the clutches. I replaced these with B&M clutches & shift kit (obviously resetting Hypertech back to 0%) I now receive the desired hard shift I am looking for, get a nice long chirp from 1-2. Hope that helps.
Ken
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Ok I think it sounds like a shift kit will give me what I am looking for 
so I called my local Corvette shop, and was told that they would have to remove the tranny to install one! 
I am a bodyman/painter by trade, and do not feel real good about taking apart my tranny myself, I thought you could just install a shift kit by removing the pan?
are they full of it or is this true
p.s. The kit in my Camaro was in it when I bought the trans.
Thanks in advance, you guys are very helpfull
so I called my local Corvette shop, and was told that they would have to remove the tranny to install one! I am a bodyman/painter by trade, and do not feel real good about taking apart my tranny myself, I thought you could just install a shift kit by removing the pan?
are they full of it or is this true
p.s. The kit in my Camaro was in it when I bought the trans.
Thanks in advance, you guys are very helpfull
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I've done one my self on a 2000 C5. You do not pull the transmission. Only the exhaust and the pan need to come off. Go to a different shop if they are telling you this 
they are trying to hose you on labor hours...
they are trying to hose you on labor hours...
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I haven't installed a shift kit since 1975 (but dont't call me old 
)
it was done underneath the car with the transmission oil pan removed. I can';t imagine how that would of changed much 30 years later
"Pull the entire tranny" ??????
don't tink sew
)it was done underneath the car with the transmission oil pan removed. I can';t imagine how that would of changed much 30 years later
"Pull the entire tranny" ??????
don't tink sew
Burning Brakes
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pan
Just pull the pan,valve body,exhaust etc. Might as well get your fuel filter as well.
I will say that I DID NOT know you had disable TM from the system right away. I have yet to drive mine since install of Transgo,but i know it works. Tried all gears and it's fine. Should i disable TM,ASAP before driving at all?? Will I FU my tranny??
Matt
I will say that I DID NOT know you had disable TM from the system right away. I have yet to drive mine since install of Transgo,but i know it works. Tried all gears and it's fine. Should i disable TM,ASAP before driving at all?? Will I FU my tranny??
Matt
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Originally Posted by MADDOG97
what will help me more, I am looking to get my 97 to shift hard into 2nd.
I have a shift kit in my camaro and it slams into 2nd and squeels the tires.
I want my vet to do the same and don't know if resetting the trans with the hypertech will do this or do I need to get a shift kit installed?
of course the hypertech would be cheaper!
Thanks
I have a shift kit in my camaro and it slams into 2nd and squeels the tires.
I want my vet to do the same and don't know if resetting the trans with the hypertech will do this or do I need to get a shift kit installed?
of course the hypertech would be cheaper!
Thanks
Bob
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This might be a stupid question, but I am gonna ask anyway. It sounds like the a4 is not a true electronic trans, is that right? My Ford diesel truck uses solenoids to shift and is totally electronic. I assumed incorrectly, it would appear that the vette is not using old technology.
I thought valve bodys and pistons were old school now.
Terry
I thought valve bodys and pistons were old school now.
Terry
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My Ford diesel truck uses solenoids to shift and is totally electronic.
I think you're confusing the "paddle shift" type transmissions that are true manual shift trannys, 'cept then have actuators that push in on the clutch and also move the gear selector for you.
There isnt' a US vehicle mfgr yet that has offered one of those .
Solenoid actuated ones like in your Ford, in my 1996 Dodge Caravan (and practically the entire automotive fleet) still use fluid pressures as a major part of the transmission makeup... along with a computer to help control it.
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KRK or anyone, I have a 2002 C5 and want to add a shift kit. This Transgo kit seems to be a good one. How much money do I have to spend on the kit? Also, does the kit tell me where to drill out the plate holes and what size to make them? I have a little experience with trannys and do all my own mechanical work on my cars.
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Originally Posted by vette1003
KRK or anyone, I have a 2002 C5 and want to add a shift kit. This Transgo kit seems to be a good one. How much money do I have to spend on the kit? Also, does the kit tell me where to drill out the plate holes and what size to make them? I have a little experience with trannys and do all my own mechanical work on my cars.
its about 100 bucks for the kit. all instructions are included.
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Go with the Transgo! I had hypertech on my 98 a couple of years ago and wasn't happy with the shifting - then I installed the shift kit. No comparison. You'll be happy with the shift kit. It's probably my favorite mod.
The install isn't too bad. You just have to be a bit **** with everything. I had no trans experience so it took me eight hours going at it slowly and causously ensuring I did everything right. Plus I didn't trust my local shops to put their paws on my car. **Sounds like you'll want to put in the three washers like I did
The install isn't too bad. You just have to be a bit **** with everything. I had no trans experience so it took me eight hours going at it slowly and causously ensuring I did everything right. Plus I didn't trust my local shops to put their paws on my car. **Sounds like you'll want to put in the three washers like I did
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From: Moorhead MN
The kit includes a video tape covering an overview of an install - not the vette. Printed instructions cover the specific application in detail. The printed instructions indentify the various holes in the plate and their sizes. The kit also includes the drill bits if I remember correctly...
You can pick up the kit here -
http://www.thelapd.com/Merchant2/mer...e_Code=thelapd
You should also consider replacing the neutral to drive piston, installing a new 1-2/3-4 accumulator kit, and a new filter while your in there.
The procedure can be done in about 3-4 hours if your comfortable with going inside of your transmission. Take your time, follow the printed instructions carefully, and enjoy the results.
You can pick up the kit here -
http://www.thelapd.com/Merchant2/mer...e_Code=thelapd
You should also consider replacing the neutral to drive piston, installing a new 1-2/3-4 accumulator kit, and a new filter while your in there.
The procedure can be done in about 3-4 hours if your comfortable with going inside of your transmission. Take your time, follow the printed instructions carefully, and enjoy the results.
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From: Schertz TX
You should also consider replacing the neutral to drive piston, installing a new 1-2/
Where do I get the neutral to Drive piston and the 1-2/3-4 accumulator kit?
Also, Will the LS1 edit totally remove the hessitation when I press down on the gas at fast acceleration?
Also, Will the LS1 edit totally remove the hessitation when I press down on the gas at fast acceleration?
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You can get the parts from Transtar Industries, a national transmission parts supplier. Check their website http://www.transtarindustries.com/ for a location near you. You will have to register but that’s ok cause they don't send any spam. you want PN 61987A, neutral to drive piston and PN DK61985A, 1-2/3-4 accumulator kit. Both PNs will have aluminum pistons. 61987A may or may not come with an o-ring...you can reuse the original if you don't have too many miles on it.
