Mod Update...
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Mod Update...
After talking with a different tech guy, he suggested LT Headers and a tune. (cost w/labor about $2500)
He thought this made more sense than the gears/TC because of my runflats...I wouldn't get traction.
I am now leaning toward his suggestion.
I was wondering on your opinions AND if I should also STILL get an upgraded TC. The tech guy mentioned an issue with "slippage" being a problem.
Your thoughts?
(my car....1999 AT... only mods are K&N cold air intake and Borla exhaust)
He thought this made more sense than the gears/TC because of my runflats...I wouldn't get traction.
I am now leaning toward his suggestion.
I was wondering on your opinions AND if I should also STILL get an upgraded TC. The tech guy mentioned an issue with "slippage" being a problem.
Your thoughts?
(my car....1999 AT... only mods are K&N cold air intake and Borla exhaust)
Drifting
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I'll ask you a ?.
Why do YOU think a TC and gears cause slippage, while a set of Headers and a tune doesn't?
Now if the headers and tune don't give you enough gain to dreate slippage, then WHY IN THE HECK EVERN DO THEM?
The tech basicly told you "the TC and gears will give you so much damn performance you won't even be able to get traction"..........
hhhhhhhmmmmmmmm
Why do YOU think a TC and gears cause slippage, while a set of Headers and a tune doesn't?
Now if the headers and tune don't give you enough gain to dreate slippage, then WHY IN THE HECK EVERN DO THEM?
The tech basicly told you "the TC and gears will give you so much damn performance you won't even be able to get traction"..........
hhhhhhhmmmmmmmm
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I hear you!
Perhaps he was working with what I have (ie the runflats) an since he said the Headers kick in at higher RPMs than the gears I'll get better traction.
I thought he said the slippage is a result of the trans slipping and I wouldn't have this problem with the headers.
I know I may have to rethink my tires...but in the meantime...............
What I was hearing from him, was there's a trade off....gears/tc max off the line but wrong tires can cause traction issues....headers kicks in a little later so traction issue is lessened and pick up power gain at 3500 rpm+.
Perhaps he was working with what I have (ie the runflats) an since he said the Headers kick in at higher RPMs than the gears I'll get better traction.
I thought he said the slippage is a result of the trans slipping and I wouldn't have this problem with the headers.
I know I may have to rethink my tires...but in the meantime...............
What I was hearing from him, was there's a trade off....gears/tc max off the line but wrong tires can cause traction issues....headers kicks in a little later so traction issue is lessened and pick up power gain at 3500 rpm+.
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Thats what I have been hearing and what I was planning....then I visit a very respected vette specialist and am steered in a different direction.
Its tough because I don't want to waste $2500!
(I should have taken autoshop back in HS
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Its tough because I don't want to waste $2500!
(I should have taken autoshop back in HS
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Drifting
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I have riden in c5's with headers, and and an exhaust and an intake, I have riden in my c-5 which has an air intake an exhaust , 3:73's and a mild 2800 TC and a dyno tune and i can honestly tell you, my car FEELS tons faster.
Drifting
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look at it this way, if you add headers you will knock maybe 2/10's off your 1/4 time, if you do a TC and gears you will knock OVER 5/10 off your 1/4 time.
Now which mod has made your car FEEL more powerful?
Now which mod has made your car FEEL more powerful?
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Yes, thats a big difference and posting and and viewing posts it seemed that Gears TC was the way to go until the header recommendation.
Again, perhaps my tires (runflats) and traction is why the opinions differ. Perhaps the tech guy agrees with you but told me (and I missed it) If I want traction, I have to give up power off the line and thus go with the headers vs the gears. If thats true, I guess I have to rethink the tires.
Again, perhaps my tires (runflats) and traction is why the opinions differ. Perhaps the tech guy agrees with you but told me (and I missed it) If I want traction, I have to give up power off the line and thus go with the headers vs the gears. If thats true, I guess I have to rethink the tires.
Drifting
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your tires will be fine......
I dyno sae corrected 338 rwhp and have 3:73's and a mild TC (2800) and traction is NOT a major issue, with my EMT's, unless I apply the brake at the launch, I get a chirp and a puff of smoke (very little) and ZOOOOOOOM I am off. Keep in mind that is only if I PUNCH it, if you are talking street use, and use your head, you'll be fine with EMT's.
I dyno sae corrected 338 rwhp and have 3:73's and a mild TC (2800) and traction is NOT a major issue, with my EMT's, unless I apply the brake at the launch, I get a chirp and a puff of smoke (very little) and ZOOOOOOOM I am off. Keep in mind that is only if I PUNCH it, if you are talking street use, and use your head, you'll be fine with EMT's.
