Remove key, wait ten seconds?
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From: Youngstown Ohio
Ah crap. Are you kiddin me, car doesn't even have 500 miles on it! 
Ok, should I wait to get the recall notice then do the CLB or just do it now? If I do it now then what about the recall notice I am bound to get?
Thanks for the info,
Darion
Think they could have fixed this in a 7 year run.
Ok, should I wait to get the recall notice then do the CLB or just do it now? If I do it now then what about the recall notice I am bound to get?Thanks for the info,
Darion
Think they could have fixed this in a 7 year run.
Drifting
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I didn't think the Column lock had anything to do with the "Remove Key Wait 10 seconds" message. The column lock message is different. the remove key message has nothing to do with the column lock.
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Originally Posted by Roofless
I didn't think the Column lock had anything to do with the "Remove Key Wait 10 seconds" message. The column lock message is different. the remove key message has nothing to do with the column lock.
"Remove key, wait 10 seconds" is the EXACT message you get when your column lock starts f***ing up. Unfortunately, I've been there.
Drifting
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From: Canton Michigan
The "Pull key wait 10 seconds" message does not always mean a defective column lock.
I've been there too.
The "pull key" message may be associated with a dirty, wet, or defective key.
The "service column lock" message is usually associated with a defective column lock.
Therefore, I would try another key and see what happens before jumping to a defective column lock conclusion.
I've been there too.
The "pull key" message may be associated with a dirty, wet, or defective key.
The "service column lock" message is usually associated with a defective column lock.
Therefore, I would try another key and see what happens before jumping to a defective column lock conclusion.
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Originally Posted by c5freak
The "Pull key wait 10 seconds" message does not always mean a defective column lock.
I've been there too.
The "pull key" message may be associated with a dirty, wet, or defective key.
The "service column lock" message is usually associated with a defective column lock.
Therefore, I would try another key and see what happens before jumping to a defective column lock conclusion.
I've been there too.
The "pull key" message may be associated with a dirty, wet, or defective key.
The "service column lock" message is usually associated with a defective column lock.
Therefore, I would try another key and see what happens before jumping to a defective column lock conclusion.
I agree. The message does not necessarily mean that you have a defective column lock. It can indeed be related to other things.
My main point to my other post was in response to this:
Originally Posted by roofless
The column lock message is different. the remove key message has nothing to do with the column lock.
Drifting
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I have no proof but I think GM displays the "Pull Key and Wait 10 Seconds" message whenever the BCM software gets confusing status from one of the other modules.....ECL being one and Theft Deterrent circuits for another. I think this may be GM's way to say "try it again, I'm confused". I did a search in my Service Manuals and could not find any place listing all the reasons for this error message. If anyone knows, it would be a great help to all of us on the forum.
In any case, when you get that message and then it clears up, it doesn't necessarily mean anything in my opinion except that there was a glitch or spurious timing event that caused the BCM to get confused. This is probably normal for cars like ours that have multiple computers all communicating with each other over serial data links. This is why the C5 seems to be so sensitive to a low battery voltage, corroded ground connections, etc. Thanks.
John
In any case, when you get that message and then it clears up, it doesn't necessarily mean anything in my opinion except that there was a glitch or spurious timing event that caused the BCM to get confused. This is probably normal for cars like ours that have multiple computers all communicating with each other over serial data links. This is why the C5 seems to be so sensitive to a low battery voltage, corroded ground connections, etc. Thanks.
John
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From: Upstate NY
Originally Posted by mixermike
i got that messge right after i swapped out my battery.my car already had the column lock done.i cleaned the key,has'nt happened again.that was a month ago. 
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Ok, here is an update, did what the car said and it hasn't happened since. From what I see here this could be related to a number of things so I'll just wait and see.
Thanks for all the info,
Darion
Thanks for all the info,
Darion