torque mangement
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From: Sunshine State
Originally Posted by zapman123
people are claiming .3 seconds improvement
in 1/4 mi run with torque manangment system bypassed.
Seems like the cheapest mod going.
Why would GM do this?
in 1/4 mi run with torque manangment system bypassed.
Seems like the cheapest mod going.
Why would GM do this?
Le Mans Master
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From: Shiloh Ohio
Originally Posted by Korreck
You will not gain .3 in the quarter. Maybe .03/.05. It prevents the timing from retarding during hard accelerations by removing it. Torque Management is supposed to help prevent early mechanical failures. It makes life easier for the transmission.
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From: Shiloh Ohio
Originally Posted by Mike Mercury
I think your are confusing traction-control with torque-management.
Racer
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From: Detroit
Originally Posted by 00Veech
Is This something that Needs To be tunned away or is there a DIY method?
Well, I know My Car has TM because It wont even let me Stall it up With the Brake to launch it
So is there a DIY Method or Tune only?
Melting Slicks
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From: Winston Salem NC
Originally Posted by Mike Mercury
I think your are confusing traction-control with torque-management.
In the trans tab: under abuse mode raise rpms to 7000. Zero torque reduction and Upshift torque reduction. Your sure, now, that this function is gone.
In Eng. Cal.,torque control: Raise Max torque to 639. Abuse mode test, rpms to 7000 and speed to 0. Torque reduction all 0, TRQ by gear, tip-in and max engine trq all to 640. Leave TCS alone, since you can switch it off in car.
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From: Shiloh Ohio
Originally Posted by 00Veech
Well, I know My Car has TM because It wont even let me Stall it up With the Brake to launch it
So is there a DIY Method or Tune only?
So is there a DIY Method or Tune only?
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From: Highlands Ranch Co
All c5's came with t/m except the z06. Now most are finding out why the z06 seems so much faster than a stock c5. The minute I deleted it my car was very easy to get out-of-control. In the A4's is takes 30deg of timming out just for every shift! That was how I noticed it. I then downloaded a z06 file and did some comparing and found the z06 has no torque managment just tcs. if you would like me to elaborate I will but it is late and I'm going to bed.
Melting Slicks
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From: Winston Salem NC
Originally Posted by patmo
All c5's came with t/m except the z06. Now most are finding out why the z06 seems so much faster than a stock c5. The minute I deleted it my car was very easy to get out-of-control. In the A4's is takes 30deg of timming out just for every shift! That was how I noticed it. I then downloaded a z06 file and did some comparing and found the z06 has no torque managment just tcs. if you would like me to elaborate I will but it is late and I'm going to bed.
The Z06 file I'm looking at does have one element of TM. It's abuse mode. It's the only element that has values.
Joe
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From: S.W. Ohio. . . . . . NRA Life Member
Originally Posted by shurite44
You know it does not even apply to me but I have seen so many posts differing on this subject. Mike, does the manual have torque management?
I have no links - and am going from memory.
For those that think removing TM will make a world of difference with a somewhat stock MN6; then lets see the links to pages that verify this, and explain EXACTLY what the PCM does to limit torque on the MN6 C5.
Well, I know My Car has TM because It wont even let me Stall it up With the Brake to launch it
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Last edited by Mike Mercury; Jul 14, 2005 at 08:43 PM.