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Originally Posted by golfman2008
The Best picture is on Ecklers web site , do a search for corvette1987 and then type in big mouth and look at the 4th picture and you can see the picture , thanks ! I don't have it in my photo buckit yet. 
Tried it, no picture....... you don't have a real picture of your product?
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St. Jude Donor '05
Originally Posted by 90 droptop
Tried it, no picture....... you don't have a real picture of your product?
Made of one piece construction , High Grade Alluminum over 1/8 inch thick and then we powder coat shiny Black or if you like we do offer it in custom colors to match your Corvette.
Plus we have very cool decals on our web site at http://www.C4orceCorvette.com
Go to store and examples.
For more info contact for GP at C4orceCorvette@charter.net
or give us a call at 864-335-9043
Thank You !
Last edited by golfman2008; May 19, 2005 at 03:37 PM.
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Originally Posted by golfman2008
Here you go :
Made of one piece construction , High Grade Alluminum over 1/8 inch thick and then we powder coat shiny Black or if you like we do offer it in custom colors to match your Corvette.
Plus we have very cool decals on our web site at http://www.C4orceCorvette.com
Go to store and examples.
For more info contact for GP at C4orceCorvette@charter.net
or give us a call at 864-335-9043
Thank You !
Made of one piece construction , High Grade Alluminum over 1/8 inch thick and then we powder coat shiny Black or if you like we do offer it in custom colors to match your Corvette.
Plus we have very cool decals on our web site at http://www.C4orceCorvette.com
Go to store and examples.
For more info contact for GP at C4orceCorvette@charter.net
or give us a call at 864-335-9043
Thank You !
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Sooooo, there is no way that the big mouth could act like a scoop and ram water up into the hole cut in the shroud and in the Blackwing? If not, is anyone willing to put it that on paper as a engine replacement warranty? The Blackwing is now a bottom breather (to a lesser gegree), just like some other intakes that have hydralocked a bunch of engines.
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St. Jude Donor '05
Would you explain to me how water would get into the opening of the Big Mouth And Find its way to the filter. How many 90 degree turns would it have to take ? where does water come from , if you agree its your tires then how does that work ? Assuming you looked at the way the Big Mouth is installed ?
I can understand if you are talking about a bottom breather( key word BOTTOM ) your implication that Bobs set up is a bottom breather is
not so ! I am very interested in your explanation !!!!!
I can understand if you are talking about a bottom breather( key word BOTTOM ) your implication that Bobs set up is a bottom breather is
not so ! I am very interested in your explanation !!!!!
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Originally Posted by golfman2008
Would you explain to me how water would get into the opening of the Big Mouth And Find its way to the filter. How many 90 degree turns would it have to take ? where does water come from , if you agree its your tires then how does that work ? Assuming you looked at the way the Big Mouth is installed ?
I can understand if you are talking about a bottom breather( key word BOTTOM ) your implication that Bobs set up is a bottom breather is not so ! I am very interested in your explanation !!!!!
I can understand if you are talking about a bottom breather( key word BOTTOM ) your implication that Bobs set up is a bottom breather is
not so ! I am very interested in your explanation !!!!! Bob's new CAI (yes BOTTOM BREATHER) now has a Big Mouth unit scooping air, water, plastic bags, etc. and directing it at his radiator. HOLE CUT IN SHROUD now has that air, water, plastic bags, etc going into his Blackwing filter. Ram Air, Scoop Air, Cold Air, call it what you will. It is what it is. 
Just like any other CAI system on the market. Bob
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Lets not skirt the water issue. Please explain what I have asked of you . otherwise all that you say from now on is not CREDITABLE and I simply believe that you are just having fun at everybody's expense "SORRY "
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Originally Posted by golfman2008
Lets not skirt the water issue. Please explain what I have asked of you . otherwise all that you say from now on is not CREDITABLE and I simply believe that you are just having fun at everybody's expense "SORRY "
Pretty easy is it not? Big scoop in front directing everything towards your radiator. Big hole in shroud EXPOSING AIR FILTER guess the rest is common sense. Your scoop may be a great idea however, your system is now directing everything towards the filter. You sir may want get familiar with the CAI systems on the market, this is what is now in use on Bob's car. As for skirting the water issue read my above reply, it's all there just read it next time.
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Originally Posted by 16Again
Pretty easy is it not? Big scoop in front directing everything towards your radiator. Big hole in shroud EXPOSING AIR FILTER guess the rest is common sense. Your scoop may be a great idea however, your system is now directing everything towards the filter. You sir may want get familiar with the CAI systems on the market, this is what is now in use on Bob's car. As for skirting the water issue read my above reply, it's all there just read it next time.I will not get into this cold air crap. You know how I feel about that.
I originally installed the Big Mouth to help with engine temp at the track. You know about my inconsistencies. One set of ET's with a cool engine and another set of ET's with a hot engine. I then came up with the idea of cutting the shroud. I didn't know of other breathers that did this but I have heard some do. Still don't know who it is.
This has fixed my problem with inconsistencies. Now about water and debris. Most of it is kicked up by the tires and The Big Mouth blocks that. Sure, some debris and water will enter via the front opening. Water cannot enter the front and then turn upward into the breather. It will be defused and go into the radiator.
Problem with a bottom breather is that it draws air through ducts mounted low and in the front of the car. If they are under water they draw water, not air.
Hope this helps.
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Originally Posted by 16Again
Bob, sent you a PM of the bottom breather. 
Of course you could just go look at your car. 
Of course you could just go look at your car. "Problem with a bottom breather is that it draws air through ducts mounted low and in the front of the car. If they are under water they draw water, not air." I would have to be in 26"/30" of water?
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Originally Posted by Korreck
Did you read my previous post? Let me repeat it:
"Problem with a bottom breather is that it draws air through ducts mounted low and in the front of the car. If they are under water they draw water, not air." I would have to be in 26"/30" of water?
"Problem with a bottom breather is that it draws air through ducts mounted low and in the front of the car. If they are under water they draw water, not air." I would have to be in 26"/30" of water?
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Originally Posted by 16Again
Bob, I agree to an extent however, all the CAI systems are no created equal (meaning ducts). Our filters, yes even the Vararam sit in the same basic location as stock. The difference is the how the air or whatever is being directed to that filter. Vararam uses a ducting system on the nose and provides drainage holes just in case. Vortex uses a box under the shroud. Looking at what you have built it is something like the Vortex without the box but, you are now directing the air to that area of your filter. Your design is like what Jim Hall was doing with his Haltech Stinger unit. Bottom line is no boating with any of these systems and normal maintenance and we will all be fine.
The water has to be deep enough to reach my filter. On your Vararam it just has to cover the front of the ducts. OK, I think we are in agreement on the hydrolock issue.Now one more thing. What I refer to as a bottom breather is a unit that draws air through ducts at or near the bottom of the car. I would not consider mine a bottom breather.
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Originally Posted by Korreck
You can hydrolock with a stock breather. I can just go fishing in deeper water than you. The water has to be deep enough to reach my filter. On your Vararam it just has to cover the front of the ducts. OK, I think we are in agreement on the hydrolock issue.
Now one more thing. What I refer to as a bottom breather is a unit that draws air through ducts at or near the bottom of the car. I would not consider mine a bottom breather.
The water has to be deep enough to reach my filter. On your Vararam it just has to cover the front of the ducts. OK, I think we are in agreement on the hydrolock issue.Now one more thing. What I refer to as a bottom breather is a unit that draws air through ducts at or near the bottom of the car. I would not consider mine a bottom breather.
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I have a big mouth unit on my car.. My air filter is placed in the front facia... way ahead of the big mouth duct (which by the way) throws air on my condenser and Be Cool Radiator. There is no question in my mind that water will hydro lock an engine... although one would have to drive through a 10" deep body of water very quickly to actually be able to throw water up into a Vortec air filter.
ching... ching....
VR
PS. heres to that not happening to anyone on this forum.
ching... ching....
VR
PS. heres to that not happening to anyone on this forum.
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Originally Posted by vetterdstr
I have a big mouth unit on my car.. My air filter is placed in the front facia... way ahead of the big mouth duct (which by the way) throws air on my condenser and Be Cool Radiator. There is no question in my mind that water will hydro lock an engine... although one would have to drive through a 10" deep body of water very quickly to actually be able to throw water up into a Vortec air filter.
ching... ching....
VR
PS. heres to that not happening to anyone on this forum.
ching... ching....
VR
PS. heres to that not happening to anyone on this forum.
Point is... it has happened, and if Korreck drives through a puddle of water and toasts his motor...... someone is going to be very pissed about the bigmouth directing water in his intake. So. I ask again, is anyone willing to give a written warranty against hydrolock with this set up???