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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 09:55 AM
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Anyone using the GM Performance LS6 cnc-ported heads? Wondering if they give much if any gains over the stock LS6 heads. Did a couple searches and didn't find any references to them.
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 10:02 AM
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I don't hink the heads will offer much in the way of actual performance gains by themselves. They can be ported to allow larger volumes of fuel / gas mix and waste exhaust to flow in / out but you will need a cam to bring the package together.

One advantage with the GM heads is that you would not void your GM warranty if you went with the factory Z06 heads / cam setup. Should be able to bolt-on around 60-70 RWHP and still stay warranty legal.
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 11:25 AM
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The GMPP heads are stock 02+ LS6 ported by LPE and were developed for competition use, like the World Challenge Vette Lou Gigliotti drives, and with a cam like the GMPP Grand-Am Cup cam the WC Vettes run. If you don't have a bigger cam you won't come close to realizing the head's potential, though you'd get some hp improvement. With the right cam, I'd guess they might be worth 40hp or so. Maybe more if you get the high comp. version. For better info, call LPE and talk to Ed Potter, Scoggins-Dickey, or try LS1tech.com.
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 12:08 PM
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The GMPP heads are stock 02+ LS6 ported by LPE and were developed for competition use, like the World Challenge Vette Lou Gigliotti drives, and with a cam like the GMPP Grand-Am Cup cam the WC Vettes run. If you don't have a bigger cam you won't come close to realizing the head's potential, though you'd get some hp improvement. With the right cam, I'd guess they might be worth 40hp or so. Maybe more if you get the high comp. version. For better info, call LPE and talk to Ed Potter, Scoggins-Dickey, or try LS1tech.com.
These are also the same heads that LG has been having problems with on his race car.
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 01:56 PM
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These are also the same heads that LG has been having problems with on his race car.
Yeah, Lou's been trying to convince the SCCA to allow AFRs, so far without success.
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 08:54 PM
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What are the problems they are having with these heads?
I have a set on my '99.
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 10:36 PM
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The heads were cracking from the stress of operating at up to 7500 rpm for 45min or so The extensive porting probably weakens them structurally. I'd guess they're quite reliable in less stressful use.
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I think the rocker stud cracks, but read his race reports from earlier this season to find out for sure.
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I ran these heads with great results. They flow over 306cfm at .550 lift with stock valves. On my automatic car I acheived 400rwh with these heads and the LPE GT2-3 cam, which is a very mild cam. With these heads and a 224 cam, 430+ is no problem on a manual car. I have these heads currently for sale only because I went forced induction. PM for details or pics.
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The problem with these heads, as I understand it, is that because of core shift during manufacture, the thickness of the port walls can vary. The when the heads are CNC ported, the area under the rocker arm stud can end up very thin sometimes. It is almost always not a problem with the supplied springs but can be if stronger springs are used.

The peak flow #s are great but they come at the expense of lower port velocity because of very large cc ports, which can mean a loss of low speed torque compared to other heads
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