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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 03:38 PM
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About 30,000 miles ago I swapped the factory bushings to Vette Brakes Poly (front upper & lower control arms and rear lower control arms, I left the upper rear rubber). I've run few tracks in that time, maybe a dozen. Now my suspension and steering feel sloppy. I've traced to worn bushings and/or metal pieces parts in contact with the bushings. No, I haven't pulled everything apart to measure. I have need to add shims on the front upper arms between the bushings and the frame mounts. It's hard to tell if the control arm is worn, but the bushings definitely are. After paying $250 for a set of bushings, I am dissappointed that the are already in need of replacement. Yes, they were well lubed at installation. Are the Vette Brakes bushings the end-all-be-all or are there other brands that last longer? Is this just something I'm going to have to live with if I want to use poly? Do I need to replace all the control arms when I replace the bushings?
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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 04:28 PM
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30,000 is a fair amount of miles on poly. Remember the stock bushing are bonded to the sleeve so they last longer. You don't need to replace the control arms.
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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 07:35 PM
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After reading this I'm glad I didn't do poly bushings(yet at least).
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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 07:56 PM
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I can't see how poly could wear out faster than rubber.

Not my experience with other cars.

Maybe it has something to do with the embedded graphite.

Maybe they just weren't made right...
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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 08:02 PM
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I can't see how poly could wear out faster than rubber.
I've also experienced poly wearing out faster than rubber. I've had to replace the poly swaybar bushings on a few cars with less than 50k on each set.
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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 08:18 PM
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They must be mighty soft. I know the stock front upper bushings are like foam rubber
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Old Aug 13, 2005 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by FRCTony
I can't see how poly could wear out faster than rubber.

Not my experience with other cars.

Maybe it has something to do with the embedded graphite.

Maybe they just weren't made right...

The stock bushings are attached/bonded to a metal sleeve hence the rubber doesn't get friction from the A-arm bolt as poly does with no sleeve. Poly is harder and handles way more presise especially at high speed.
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Old Aug 13, 2005 | 12:58 PM
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Alright, poly wears out faster. I can accept that. The handling trade-off is worth it to me. However, I am not too happy about the fact that Vette Brakes didn't tell me anything about poly wearing out faster than rubber. I just wish they would have told me up front.

Anyway, does anyone have any expreience with Energy Suspension products. In the pictures, ES does not show any bolts or sleeves. Do the ES poly parts work with stocks hardware or do they come like the Vette Brakes bushings with all the hardware included? The ES kit is 1/3 the price of the Vette Brakes kit.
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Originally Posted by connellyh
Alright, poly wears out faster. I can accept that. The handling trade-off is worth it to me. However, I am not too happy about the fact that Vette Brakes didn't tell me anything about poly wearing out faster than rubber. I just wish they would have told me up front.

Anyway, does anyone have any expreience with Energy Suspension products. In the pictures, ES does not show any bolts or sleeves. Do the ES poly parts work with stocks hardware or do they come like the Vette Brakes bushings with all the hardware included? The ES kit is 1/3 the price of the Vette Brakes kit.

ES is worst they suppy no hardware and you have to reuse all the hardware. If yoy drive hard the stock stuff will get sloopy fast also. VBP is the best. Unless you want to put bearings in there from LGM like his race car. Then there is no cushing what so ever.
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