F45 (adjustable)
Current spring rates are 425 front and 525 rear
Vetterdstr... got your comment!

 

I know what you are going through as nothing in the mod game is easy... FWIW, I am still having growing pains with the latest round of mods as well.. its going to take extra time and effort to get them perfected. Again, sorry to hear of your troubles.

VR

 

Dour Rippie is a stand up guy and is very well kown for his driving skills and the work that his shop does. I have a hard time beliveing that he can't fix your problem, it sounds to me like you are haiving a hard time figuring out what you want the car to do and where to do it at.

 

I also have the DRM CoilOver package, but I have not driven my car much with it, since I got the package put in this summer. When I called Tim at DRM they knew I liked my car low, so the system they set me up with was with shorted Bilstein shocks. I am currently slammed to the ground, but I think the car actually rides better now than it did with the Z51 suspension lowered (With longer bolts in the rear). I will be tracking the car next year, but from what I have been able to do on the street, it should be amazing on the track. I am also curious why you are bottoming out with only being lowered ½ inch.

I have done all the work on my car with DRM and their great bunch of guys; it’s hard to imagine them not wanting to help you with your situation. Trust me, I feel your pain when it comes to modds gone wrong. I would give DRM another call and even speak to Doug, to see what he suggest's to correct your problem.

Good Luck and keep us posted.
Steve.

 

No, I know what I want the car to do and if you've read my earlier posts, I've been clear with it from the beginning. The ride was just not liveable and at times unsafe. I tried everything that was asked of me.
I don't care if you don't believe me but don't go doubting me when you have no clue of the **** that I've dealt with as far as trying to get my car to ride decently. When you're driving on an onramp and the rear of the car loses traction coming out of a shallow dip, something ain't right--period and when you're going down a highway that is not in the best shape and the car bucks forward and back enough to make your head bob forward and back until you're seasick, something ain't right. And if the only way to correct that is by putting super soft springs, I might as well have stuck to the stock suspension.

 

To tell you the truth I don't think there is anything wrong with your coilovers. I live 6 hours from you. If you want to meet me half way sometime soon I'll take you for a ride in my car and try and figure out what's wrong with yours. Let me know.

George

 

Thank you for the offer (no offense, you might not think there is something wrong but I drive my car and I know that something is wrong) but as I mentioned earlier, I'm done trying to figure out what's wrong with mine. A handful of times in the shop is already way beyond what I wanted. I need a solution. I've already spent a lot of my time trying to figure out and work with what's wrong. I'm not here for a diagnosis.

I'm here publicly asking for resolution and I'm asking for the forum's support.

 

What's up brother. Something is obviously waay wrong. I sent my shocks out to Bilstein to have the fronts shortened some more. Bilstein had them for 3 weeks. I kept calling Rippie and they said that the head guy at bilstein was on vacation. After calling Rippie for 3 weeks straight they finally gave me the number to Bilstein. When I talked to the head guy at Bilstein named Jack, he said he wasn't on vacation and have never heard from Rippie. I couldn't believe it. Randy basically lied right to me. I never called Rippie back because I will NEVER do business with them again and didn't want to waste my time. After talking to Jack at Bilstein (which was an extremley nice guy) He shortened the front anther .5" and played with the valving. The car rides much better and the handleing is unreal. If your lowered only .50 inches, there's no way you should be running out of travel on the stock shocks. If I had to do it over again, I would call MSI and ask them about their adjustable QA1 shocks and have them shortened. Your problem is either the valving is WAAY off, or the shocks are longer than stock. My car in easily in the top 3 on this forum of being lowered. My ride is VERY good for having T1 bars, poly bushings, 20 inch wheels. You've already spent $2500 for your set up and it still screwed and your extremely frustrated. Spend the extra 1k AT THIS POINT AND GET IT TAKEN CARE OF ONCE AND FOR ALL! They are in Sac which I think is an acceptable drive to get the car squared away and this whole situation behind you. My car has been in and out of the shop for the last year, I have an easy 3k in labor just to try and get it squared away. On my next vette, I will probably spend the money on adjustable Penskes and get it done right the first time! Good luck, I hope this helps.

 

This thread keeps getting goofier all the time. If YOU sent your shocks to Bilstein, as you said, and they had them for three weeks, and didn't work on them, how is that DRM's fault? I just don't understand. This thread is deteriorating into name-calling, and no one wins at that game.
All I know is, that from my personal experience, Doug, Randy and Tim are all honest, stand-up people, who do outstanding work, at a fair price, and stand behind what they have done.
I still am not sure the whole story is being laid out here. Why refuse help from someone, with almost the same setup, who can drive and take a look at your car, and who will meet you partway? Something doesn't quite jive, IMHO.

 

We'll since you have your palm, palms out I'll tell you. Rippie TOLD ME to send them directly to Bilstein since they are in CA and so am I. There's no need to send them half way across the country when they are 3 hours from me. There is no name calling here, just facts. Randy HAD BEEN great to deal with up to this point. 5 years prior to this I dealt with a guy name Vuaghn that worked there. I told Vaughn at that time I wanted my 96LT4 dumped and he said he would take care of it. Well, he sent the 10" springs out instead of 8" springs and my car sat higher than it did before. When he sent the other ones out they were wrong agin. Finally the third time I got them, they were right. Problem was, I had to pay for all the labor, and when I asked them to SPLIT the costs he told me to pound sound. I gave them a 2nd shot on this car. I highly doubt the guy from Bilstein would lie. Bottom line, I highly doubt Paras will be getting any help from Rippie. Maybe you've had a great experience with them because your close to them. I have not, apparently, Para hasn't either. Not slandering or name calling, relating my personal experience!

 

I also had to wait for like 3 weeks for my shocks from Bilstein this year. However, DRM told me that Bilstein was back up with orders (spring) that’s why it took so long to get the shocks for the CoilOvers on my set up. I don't see why Randy would lie about calling Bilstein . It makes no sense to me....

 

Me either. But that's what the head engineer told me. Along with the sales guy's that do their orders. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me either!

 

Look, there's nothing here that doesn't jive. And please don't take my thread off topic.
You can go and search topics that I've posted or questions that I've asked on this forum. I've been posting questions for some time trying to understand how I can get the suspension to work right. And all the while, I'm thinking that I shouldn't have to do all this.
After you've kept your patience and been to a shop several times to try and get your setup right and it hasn't worked out the way you wanted it to, you'd understand that I don't want someone who may or may not know what they're doing (no offense to the person who offered) to try and help you figure out what isn't right. Are you suggesting that I randomly go with someone else's advice? And what if it doesn't work again? How many times do I have to try to get the suspension to work right? This isn't my job and not what I paid for. I'm just demanding that I get what I asked for and after this much time and effort, if I still don't have it, I need a refund. That's it.

vettethreat--thanks for your comments and suggestions. I just can't afford to put more money out of pocket for my car right now and in all honesty, I shouldn't have to. I just started the MBA program at USC and am renting an apartment soon. I don't have the time, money (I've spent around $3.5K so far) or patience anymore.

 

As many of you know, coilovers are on my short list, and the information here is very interesting.

Paras, Vettethret and others: thanks for presenting both sides (for and against) coilovers and DRM. I have no opinion to offer regarding the vendor, DRM, as I have not used them yet.

However, I do think it is healthy to hear both sides of any story and so be better informed of expensive future purchases.

EG

 

Paras, I had no intent to take your thread off topic. I was simply responding to another post within it.
I was absolutely not suggesting that you randomly take someone else's advice. I was suggesting that you take a great (free) opportunity to side-by-side his very similar car with yours, and compare any installation differences. From your posts it certainly appears plausible that some may exist. However, this does not seem to be important to you. This is the part that doesn't jive to me. I really don't understand that.
Ed

 

Ok, sorry if I was getting annoyed but its not free for me to drive up north and meet someone and try to compare differences and then try to make changes--which have no guarantee of being exact. That you have to understand. And I'm not a mechanic--I'm not going to be able to figure out differences. What doesn't jive to me about your posts is that you ignore the fact that I've used DRM's suggestions to work on my suspension many times and that I'm saying that, hey, I've worked on trying to fix things but it hasn't happened and now I'm drawing a line and saying that I can't deal with this anymore. Am I expected to have money to keep swapping things back and forth until it somehow works?

DRM did try and work with me in the beginning but over time it got harder to work with them and then I was told that that was it. That's why I'm here. I've also sent DRM e-mails multiple times and it would take a long time for them to be returned if they were returned at all. Most of the time I had to try and catch someone by calling. I no longer have that sort of time to play around.

If I'm going to get help, it needs to be professional and able to solve the problem completely but its complete bull for me to have to pay for it now or spend my time. I probably should've asked for them to send me someone else's system the first time it didn't work but I wanted their suspension to work and I wanted to work with them because I believed that they would make all sincere efforts to have me be happy with what they sold me. I asked DRM to continue to help me with trying to fix the problem. That's why I ask as I have before for a refund and I'm seriously contemplating taking further action if something doesn't get resolved here.

I invite DRM to make their case here as to why I don't deserve a refund.

 

And once again, I said that I wanted a car that I could drive on the street. Why was I then sold shocks that per Bilstein were intended to be used on the street?

 

Sorry to hear this............

U should have got LGM coilovers the best coilovers for a C5

 

Do you by chance have these coilovers and if so, can I ride in your car? It would be interesting to see if the same things that come up in my car come up in your car... Thanks, -Paras

Will DRM comment?

 

Paras,

You stated in an earlier post that you measured several other C5's in regards to ride height. Where are you measuring from and how?

Are you or anybody else making these adjustments with corner scales to ensure the car is being setup correctly? I would hate to think that folks are just counting threads or something like that.

I just need more information on this for clarity.

Oh, by the way....my wife screams a lot in my car too, but I just ignore her.