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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 01:09 AM
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Some times I start it up, runs fine until I pull forward or backward. THEN IT DIES, START IT AGAIN PULL FORWARD...IT DIES (AGAIN)..
The third time I start it every thing is fine it runs right down the road. It doesn't matter if is cold or hot. I am VERY ***** off with this problem.
Codes are: C1281...C1288 &
C2120
THIS IS DRIVING ME CRAZY...BEEN DOING IT FOR A YEAR
I need help!!! Rod...rhrlh@yahoo.com....214-662-3817

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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 01:39 AM
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Ouch. A year? Why haven't you taken it to get fixed?
Your starter must be toast.

Not sure what the issue is. TCS is traction control system.
Probably a bad sensor.
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 08:49 AM
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THE PROBLEM... it may not do it for a week of so, sometimes twice a day, very intermitent problem.
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by RODMAN1966
Some times I start it up, runs fine until I pull forward or backward. THEN IT DIES, START IT AGAIN PULL FORWARD...IT DIES (AGAIN)..
The third time I start it every thing is fine it runs right down the road. It doesn't matter if is cold or hot. I am VERY ***** off with this problem.
Codes are: (28-TCS)...C1281...C1288 &
(BO-RFA...C2120
THIS IS DRIVING ME CRAZY...BEEN DOING IT FOR A YEAR
I need help!!! Rod...rhrlh@yahoo.com....214-662-3817
Well the RFA: Remote Function (not sure what the "A" stnads for) code is saying that the tire pressure monitor system has failed so you probably don't have any tire pressures available.

and the traction control faults C1281 & C1288 are Yaw failures in the ebtcm (electronic brake &traction control module), more than likely the module will need to be replaced if these 2 codes are displayed as an "HC", if they are shown as an "H" than just reset them and forget about it, either way none of these will cause your car to shut down.

Now for your problem, if your car starts and idles fine but dies as soon as you put it in gear and start to drive then it sounds like either a VATS (vehicle anti theft system) or a column lock problem.

Have you had the column lock bypass mod or the recall done?

also, take a look at the passenger side floor is it wet or do you have a problem with water getting into the passenger side floor?
The BCM is down there in the footwell and can cause some funky problems if it gets wet.
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 03:45 PM
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I have the VATS bypassed with my Clifford 3.5 Alarm system, had the same (stopping issue before and after alarm install)...Whats up with the Sterring wheel sensor (Sterring Positioning Sensor) that code has come up...My sterring does not lock, 6 Speed trans. Could the be an issue there.
I sure if I took it to a shop they could have it a week starting and pulling forward 200 times and it would never die on them.

HAS ANY ONE HAD THIS PROBLEM BEFORE.
PS I can start it up an let it idle for 5-10 minutes a soon as the car moves it shuts off (Dies). I don't even have to put it in Gear???????

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I can't believe you have put up with this for a year!
I would find out if the car has the GM recall or an aftermarket CLB.
It's possible a relay could be your intermittent problem.
But what's your hurry?

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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by RODMAN1966
I have the VATS bypassed with my Clifford 3.5 Alarm system, had the same (stopping issue before and after alarm install)...Whats up with the Sterring wheel sensor (Sterring Positioning Sensor) that code has come up...My sterring does not lock, 6 Speed trans. Could the be an issue there.
I sure if I took it to a shop they could have it a week starting and pulling forward 200 times and it would never die on them.

HAS ANY ONE HAD THIS PROBLEM BEFORE.
PS I can start it up an let it idle for 5-10 minutes a soon as the car moves it shuts off (Dies). I don't even have to put it in Gear???????

Thanks Rod
This sounds like a CLB (Column Lock BYPASS) problem to me. If your steering does NOT lock you must have a CLB installed and if it is going bad, this could do it. I would buy a new one. This is something I have worried about myself, these CLBs are mechanical relays and they will probably all go bad someday.
About your alarm bypassing the VATS... what exactly does this mean?
I thought VATS was on C4s, don't think I have ever heard VATS on a C5. The C5 has a resistor in the key, is this what you bypassed? If so, why would you do that? Just curious.
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I know for a fact the the by-pay has not had the factory up grade. I just hate haveing a dealer Jack with my car. The sterring does not lock, so i assumed something has been done to it. As for the other members comment on Vats code is'nt that the Resister 1-15?
The sterring Sensor (which I suspected, was causeing the problem myself, does anyone have the part number.

Thanks for all the help guys.
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Originally Posted by C5GARY
I thought VATS was on C4s, don't think I have ever heard VATS on a C5. The C5 has a resistor in the key, is this what you bypassed?
Gary
VATS stands for Vehicle anti theft system so any GM vehicle with a built in anti theft system has VATS and the C5 with the resistor on the key is no different, as for why someone would bypass it for an aftermarket system ...I don't know?
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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 01:00 AM
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GM recall, 01044A ELECTONIC COLUMN LOCK, says very plainly if column does not unlock, as soon as vehicle moves, the engine will shut off....MY STERRING, WAS NOT LOCKING buttt.

It is apparent that some one took the lock out my car before I got it, but did not do the rest of the factory, modification. 98-2000 problem.

It's about time Shop formans at Chevy read there BULLETINS, I talked to four of them in Dallas...

So there is an answer, guess I found my own solution.
Thanks Rod

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Originally Posted by RODMAN1966
I know for a fact the the by-pay has not had the factory up grade. I just hate haveing a dealer Jack with my car. The sterring does not lock, so i assumed something has been done to it. As for the other members comment on Vats code is'nt that the Resister 1-15?
The sterring Sensor (which I suspected, was causeing the problem myself, does anyone have the part number.

Thanks for all the help guys.
P/N 26055808 is the steering sensor for my '98.
A fellow forum member gave me instructions for changing it myself but a suggestion was made to clean and reseat the EBTCM plug first which on my car is lacated behind the Differential. I did this about 2 months ago and the 1281 code has NOT returned! Hope this helps...
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Default Any One Wit A C5 That Dies As Soon As You Move Needs To Read This

MODUAL IN STEERING, LOCK SENSOR IS BAD

GM RECALL 301044A It wiil save you alot of money, other wise it will cost you alot, for them to try to fix it BECAUSE THEY ARE TO ... ...TO READ THERE OWN (RECALLS)..

As you can read, THE THIRD RESPONSE TO THE QUESTION, HE SAID WHY DID YOU PUT UP FOR IT FOR A (YEAR). Because I asked 5 GM Shop formans, and fifty other people about the problem, with no answer!!! (No shop forman read the GM recall #301044A)
Because I was not the origninal owner, I was not Notifyed.

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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 09:43 PM
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GM message DESTROY 01044A and use 01044B !

I performed this recall at work today, and friday my 99 is getting it too.





Originally Posted by RODMAN1966
GM recall, 01044A ELECTONIC COLUMN LOCK, says very plainly if column does not unlock, as soon as vehicle moves, the engine will shut off....MY STERRING, WAS NOT LOCKING buttt.

It is apparent that some one took the lock out my car before I got it, but did not do the rest of the factory, modification. 98-2000 problem.

It's about time Shop formans at Chevy read there BULLETINS, I talked to four of them in Dallas...

So there is an answer, guess I found my own solution.
Thanks Rod
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