Horsepower formula
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From: Wappingers Falls NY
Horsepower formula
what is the formula for calculating horsepower at the flywheel if i know the horsepower at the rear wheels ?? i know you multiply by.0** ??
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From: Monticello MN
Originally Posted by Patches
Over the years I've seen a 13-15% loss used on the MN6/M12 while 15-18% is applied to the A4. So, for a 305 rwhp MN6 C5 with a 13% loss applied:
305/.87 = 350.57 fwhp
305/.87 = 350.57 fwhp
I've been told 15% for an M6 and 18-20% for an A4 from some pretty reputable tuners. Don't know how accurate that is, though. I would think, for example, that a 2.73 rear would dyno higher than a 3.15. Logic would say that the A4 has more drivetrain loss than an M6, but exactly how much, seems open to some conjecture. In the final analysis, it probably doesn't really mean much, except for bragging rights. It's in, as they say, where the rubber hits the road.
Ed
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From: Richmond Hill Ontario
Originally Posted by C5XTASY
I've been told 15% for an M6 and 18-20% for an A4 from some pretty reputable tuners. Don't know how accurate that is, though. I would think, for example, that a 2.73 rear would dyno higher than a 3.15. Logic would say that the A4 has more drivetrain loss than an M6, but exactly how much, seems open to some conjecture. In the final analysis, it probably doesn't really mean much, except for bragging rights. It's in, as they say, where the rubber hits the road.
Ed
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I agree. I'm only interested in rear wheel horsepower and rear wheel torque. I can't use the power at the crank - only at the tyres 
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From: Leon Iowa
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Originally Posted by Awsum98
what is the formula for calculating horsepower at the flywheel if i know the horsepower at the rear wheels ?? i know you multiply by.0** ??
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From: Cape Coral FL
Originally Posted by Rock'en Silver 02
the correct number is 17%. thats from my dyno/tuner guy
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From: SoCal
Originally Posted by BIGMAC
I am told that on an A4, 3.42 gears and a 2600 stall converter will increase the driveline loss to 18-20% vs. 13-15% with stock 2.73 gears and 1400 stall. Can anyone confirm?
I can only confirm that your car will be MUCH FASTER
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From: Rollin' Worldwide from OH10 Ohio
I usually tend to stay out of these hottly contested debates, but I will say this: You are all pretty much in the ball park, and are fairly well informed. Typically we see in manual trans, vehicles approx 10-15% loss and 15-25% loss in automatics.
You can get really close, but for those of us who are sticklers- next time your engine is out, have it "easy" dyno'ed and then when installed, take your car to a chassis dyno and you'll know exact loss.
The last thing I will say between the Mustang Dyno and Dynojet( "Mine's Better Than Your's" ) argument that will go on till eternity- we use a Dynojet, but- have had the same vette on a MDyno, with an extremely qualifed operator and have acheived results to within 1hp.
You can get really close, but for those of us who are sticklers- next time your engine is out, have it "easy" dyno'ed and then when installed, take your car to a chassis dyno and you'll know exact loss.
The last thing I will say between the Mustang Dyno and Dynojet( "Mine's Better Than Your's" ) argument that will go on till eternity- we use a Dynojet, but- have had the same vette on a MDyno, with an extremely qualifed operator and have acheived results to within 1hp.
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Originally Posted by Rock'en Silver 02
the correct number is 17%. thats from my dyno/tuner guy
